K-viewers in 2021 Loving the Anti-hero Vigilante Justice Dramas Vincenzo, Taxi Driver, and The Devil Judge

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• Vincenzo is super fun to watch regarding punishment for the evils by anti-hero, Taxi driver's amazingly written and directed that viewers cheer the protagonist till the end, plus, this made Lee je hoon shine more than ever, Devil judge's plot is also unique which attracts audience who loves dystopian world and handsome main leads. But, for me, Mouse is special regarding plot, directing, acting. Everything is top notch, even the ending was so safisfying as well as heartbreaking
  Before,I wasn't keen on Lee Seung gi's performance but in this he nailed. He cried so convincingly that it was impossible to hate him. It means he delivered the inner turmoil of the character who did evil deeds however in the regretted till the death

  • I did enjoy Vincenzo I cant even believed my grandkid who is 4 yrs old( a premie) know what series is the one that red paint was poured.
    He also loves the classical.music.
    I ended up everytime I babysit him watch Vincenzo again ,& again.

• Vincenzo is super fun to watch regarding punishment for the evils by anti-hero, Taxi driver's amazingly written and directed that viewers cheer the protagonist till the end, plus, this made Lee je hoon shine more than ever, Devil judge's plot is also unique which attracts audience who loves dystopian world and handsome main leads. But, for me, Mouse is special regarding plot, directing, acting. Everything is top notch, even the ending was so safisfying as well as heartbreaking
  Before,I wasn't keen on Lee Seung gi's performance but in this he nailed. He cried so convincingly that it was impossible to hate him. It means he delivered the inner turmoil of the character who did evil deeds however in the end regretted till the death

• Sorry to be out of topic, can we just talk about that 90min divorce dialogue that was in Love ft marriage and divorce. It was a first for me, Wowww

• I understand the appeal of it as a genre, it's a way to blow off a little steam about an unjust world. Park Jae Bum's (Vincenzo) previous dramas also had the same theme - renegade accountant, renegade priest, now mafia.

  But it's definitely dependent on execution, Vincenzo, Taxi Driver etc were well written and acted. The bar is higher for these than your typical fluffy romcom, they can't survive off actor visuals alone, they have to be actually good.

  • @Royal We - Agreed. Anti-hero dramas live and die by their plot, acting, and characters' appeal.

• No no no k-viewer getting tired with anti hero drama,the devil judge rating stuck between 5-6% like mouse.Korean ahjuma still choose to watch makjang drama like the penthouse and love marriage and divorce 12% now win competition vs devil judge 6%.

  • Yes, makjang dramas come first for k-viewers. I don't know what expectations were for The Devil Judge, maybe the network is disappointed, but 5-6% ratings aren't bad.

    • 5-6% is pretty good for late wed/thur time slot like mouse but I guess they are looking at 6-8% for sat/sun 8pm time slot.

      I don’t know why korea producers like to do the same theme at the same time Eg time travel, noona romance, and now anti-hero …do they like to compete and see how can do it better?

    • Its not great and if had been LMH or KSH these ratings would be declared flop but since the lead is JS they are acceptable but his wife LBY hit 10% for a very boring makjang drama so it would be nice to see JS get higher ratings for his drama which objectively is the better drama.

    • Oh yeah, that makes sense about the weekend time slot. Plus, they had a string of big hits. Still, it's doing similar numbers or better to shows like IOTNBO or Start Up that had a lot of hype.

      I swear writers and producers get together and come up with a themes list.

    • @Dyna

      Agree. Beyond Evil and Flower of Evil, for example, had lower ratings than IOTNBO. But I never saw anyone calling those dramas flops.

      Unfortunately, the standards are sky-high for Hallyu stars. Or should I call them Hallyu targets because of how people are ever-ready to fling sharp darts of ridicule, vitriol and hate at them. 'Overrated', 'overhyped' are two darts out of many that get thrown around all too often. Thank the drama gods Vincenzo didn't flop or how the hyenas would have eaten SJK alive. *Shudder*

    • The actors got so much attention from IOTNBO I honestly didn't realize it was considered a flop.

    • IOTNBO was only considered a flop to some because it starred KSH. Remove him from the equation and everyone will say it’s a hit. It got so much buzz domestically and internationally during its run and then go on to receive shout out from NY Times, Forbes and 8 nominations at the Baeksang awards. Tell me another flop drama that garnered so much recognition.

    • @Mimi

      When the drama was airing, yeah, the ratings brigade kept popping up in the recap posts on here to emphasize how it was a flop and how they had dropped it (and even made personal attacks on the two leads.)

      Every. Single. Week.

      You could tell some of them were salty TKEM stans who wanted to get back at Koala (who liked IOTNBO) for how she snarkily took down TKEM in her recap posts and others were bitter BR stans who couldn't handle that PBIO was more popular and got mostly positive reviews while BR got overwhelmingly negative feedback.

      Plus, there was the camp whose only joy in life is to bash popular dramas just because they're popular. And with IOTNBO's massive popularity yet lackluster domestic ratings, it was too good a target to pass up. Nowadays, you'll find the last group on K-drama Twitter using SYJ's scandal to drag the drama till kingdom come.

    • @Merrie

      Boom! You nailed it.

    • To an extent the argument that a KSH drama getting only 5-6% is considered a flop or mediocre is understandable based on his past drama ratings. A lot of times these actors are cast purely for their ability to bring in ratings and not for their acting so if that basic criteria isn't met yes people tend to call it flop. Having said that for tvn a 5-6% is average ratings neither hit nor flop but mediocre and not in line with their production budget. For jtbc 5-6% is pretty good definitely not a flop but not a mega hit either but still a successful work more or less. At the end of the day it comes down to whether or not the ratings are above or below the expectations of the channel executives and financial executives who invested in it. Selling a drama to Netflix brings back money but doesn't necessarily make it a good investment if it is panned by the audience.

• I like the anti-hero theme though I disliked Taxi Driver. I liked Vincenzo and The Devil Judge is good. Glad the k-viewers are liking them.

  • Yeah, I can't like taxi driver, it gives me csi vibes but dramatic version.b

• Are there any other anti-hero kdramas in the line-up to air or are being produced after Devil Judge, or does DJ cap the anti-hero trend?

  • I think it might be the end for a while? It looks like we are in for some Sky Castle wannabes next.

    • Hometown Cha Cha Cha is set to replace Devil Judge. I'm not surprised tvn goes to a completely different theme for its Sat-Sun 9pm slot. The promo machine is out to push double dimple couple. I dropped Vincenzo after 2-3 episodes for various reasons. Haven't watched TD & DJ. Not interested in this genre. Interesting to see how HCCC will fare ratings wise being put in the most coveted timeslot. I'm personally invested as I adore the OTP. The Mon-Tue tvn dramas are either dismal or so-so this year & feels like it's cursed. Seo Hyun Jin's You're My Spring keeps dropping in its rating.

• You know what I would like to see? A female anti-hero kdrama, ala Killing Eve. That would be dope, but not sure if kdramaland is ready for this.

  • That would be dope but the villain in DJ is already pretty dope. Her and Yohan have a very Killing Eve dynamic between them.

  • Interestingly, I read online a while back that a Killing Eve K-remake is in the works, starring Lee Young-Ae or so. Checking out the comments, most I-viewers (moi included) weren't happy about it since dramaland wouldn't be able to do justice to the thrilling, sexy cat-and-mouse game between Eve and Villanelle which is a core part of that show. The synopsis of the planned remake also didn't sound anything remotely like KE, more like very loosely based on or somewhat inspired by KE.

    I haven't watched Taxi Driver and therefore have no idea how it ended so this might not be feasible. But if that alleged season 2 comes to fruition, maybe they could pass the baton (or steering wheel) to Esom so that she becomes the new taxi driver? Then again, dramaland's target audience is predominantly women, most of whom sign up to watch a handsome oppa looking cool as he does badass sh|t so...

• This is probably a minority opinion but trends when done right are extremely fun! The anti-hero trend is a great change up from the feel good romcoms or medical dramas. I personally would not mind a few more of these dark anti-hero dramas to be honest. They are sleek and stylish but also the plot moves quickly and the cliffhangers are actually exciting. The take downs are generally gratifying and not always predictable!

  • They're fun now because they're kinda new. But after the inevitable oversaturation, viewers will get sick of 'em and roll their eyes like, “Argh, here we go again. Is this all dramaland has to offer?” Romcoms and medical dramas were heavy in demand at one point, too.

• I really liked Vincenzo and Taxi Driver. They were very different. I don't like Devil Judge, Ji Sung character is too theatrical. But the direction is really beautiful.

  • Very much agree on Devil Judge. I've caught up to the latest episodes and my opinion I expressed in the DJ recap post still hasn't changed, despite liking Ji-sung as an actor.

  • It's funny how different opinions are. I think Ji Sung has been playing it to restrained and wish he would play it more theatrical.