C-actress Ren Min Caught on Date with Director Boyfriend and Netizens Criticize His Looks

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• If they are happy...great for them.

• C fans are obnoxious. C fan culture is pathetic and disgusting. How does actress' dating life have to do with her acting? Just leave them alone! What I despise most is some Xiao Zhan's toxic fans dissing RM for her rumored BF's looks and insinuate she's not only a bad actress but also has a very bad taste! I read similar comments on both Weibo and Youtube channels run by XZ fans. The sarcasm is really mean. They dissed her and blamed her acting for The Longest Promise's underwhelming rating and review. They mocked those XZ/RM CP. Although I don't like any shippers either, that's others' business to have their own ways entertaining themselves. Why always sniffing? Such hubris!

  As a diehard fan of XZ, I disapprove of these xfx. Also to some lunatics visiting this blog, stop labeling ppl critial of xfx as XZ antis as if all the xfx are blameless. If you still can't help getting worked up for my criticism of xfx, you'd better check your mental state and seek counseling cos your judgment is all screwed up! I just detest how a bunch of xfx always close rank to slander XZ's costars. So unsavory!

  • This rant came out of nowhere...some of you XZ fans are truly delulu always bringing him up randomly. I've watched almost ALL of his works as an idol fan of his music, and besides his acting in The Untamed, he hasn't really done anything great, except create a HUGE psychotic female fanbase. His bystander stance in the AO3 issue and other fanwars leaves a bad taste in the mouth. Now here you are taking an ENTIRE article about a C-actress and her boyfriend and bringing the focus to Xiao Zhan. GOD. I bet Wang Yibo and Xiao Zhan are embarrassed by alot of their fans.

    • Xiao Zhan fans made a big part of those who cyberbullied Ren Min recently over her bf. They were making comments like after working with Xiao Zhan she understood her inferiority and understood she's only worthy of a 'pig' man.

    • @Marie That’s too much.. augh.. how could they say something like that

    • @momnaijiaJ, how's AO3 have to do with Xiao Zhan? Did he report the fanfic site or order to shut it down? Nope! He did not leave a bad taste in normal and savvy ppl's mouths. But antis of twisted mind maliciously exploited the messy nonsense to defame XZ, get him cancelled, and for their ultimate purpose, to rob him of lucrative endorsements and other projects. You'd better get to your sense rather than spewing the same boring rumor about XZ !!! XZ's fandom has been getting bigger and bigger and he's still the top 1 popular celebrity in C-ent with the most endorsements of brand names. That just proves the majority of ordinary ppl don't buy trash theory of AO3 like yours.

  • Sorry, just wondering what is xfx? I am not good with modern lingual..

    • I don’t know what it exactly stands for either but judging from context clues, it’s the name of Xiao Zhan fans/ fan club

    • xfx stands for Xiao Fei Xia (小飛俠 in Chinese and literally Peter Pan in English). I have no idea how his fandom adopted the name "Peter Pan" though. I've been reluctant to identify myself as part of xfx becos after observing them online for a while, I disapprove of a lot of the fan culture within the fandom. It's very similar to the ARMY of BTS in their debut days. Very obnoxious! That being said, they are also the large force behind XZ's huge popularity and I credit them for XZ's success until now, surviving 227 cyberbully and cancellation.

      There're always reasonable fans and toxic fans coexisting in any huge pop fandoms. XZ's fandom is no exception. Nonetheless, many Chinese fans like Lilith and 4ever et al have no ability of independent thinking (I double they even have any education and opportunities for equivalent training). They can't tell that apart so they would conveniently but falsely call out anyone who gives reasonable critiques about XZ's dramas and his fandom AN ANTIE! LOL. This is a sign exhibiting lack of critical thinking and fear monger that any criticism would risk XZ's career. They have no idea they themselves are the ones continually making trouble for XZ who in his interviews reiterated several times his fans should live a real life, do a better job on personal matters rather than a busybody minding other ppl's business and behavior. They have trouble understanding XZ's advice but twist his words instead. Among all visiting Koala's blogs, Lilith has the worst tendency of busybody oppressing others' free speech!

  • Already predicted that's what you would say, your mission here is basically to use being a "XZ fan" as a cover to make yourself seem more credible when you throw dirty water onto XZ's real fans - the XFXs, just like how BJYX and XZ antis sometimes switch to a "XZ-only" profile pic when they cause nuisance on the net. And you love associating every piece of negative news back to XZ when people don't even think about him in the first place.

    C-netz didn't particularly care much about this piece of gossip. They placed more attention instead at how Zhang Xiaohan (the gossiper who first released this dating news using a AI-generated manhwa without revealing any names) made the director look like a handsome young guy in her manhwa, which led to no one able to guess it's Ren Min.

    • I think you are being unfair. We all know that Somebody is a XZ fan, check out her posts! If she is able to dissociate herself from the crazier part of the Fandom, and actually see that not all XZ does is perfection, I say good for her.
      I don't read Chinese and I can't tell if any of the criticism this guy is getting is in any way linked to some ott die hard fans of XZ (it seems farfetched, but crazier things do happen in C-ent fan wars), but to actually accuse one of the most loyal fans of XZ around here of being an anti is I think exaggerated.

    • I agree with Nena on this

    • @Nena As someone who has been exposed to the shenanigans in C-ent, what Somebody is doing now is not unfamiliar to me. Like I've said before, if someone really loves their idol, he/she will protect them from danger, not push them into it then declare to everyone that he/she will save them from the evil danger.

      What Somebody is doing is akin to an employee constantly telling his company's potential clients how efficient and hardworking he himself is while the rest of his company's workers are careless and lazy bums. Would you think this employee means well for his company? After hearing such words, would those potential clients still want to do business with his company?

    • @Lilith

      I agree with you. The way this Somebody acts, if I didn't know any better I would think all XZ fans are nasty and toxic, because she is just as toxic as those supposedly bad XFXs that she mentioned. It doesn't matter whether she dissociate herself from XFXs or not, to the people who aren't constantly updated about C-ent, they are all XZ fans, and they will think badly of XZ fans.

    • Lilith, you hit all the points. From what I observed, many of those who declare themselves as XZ's fan but emphasize that they are not XFXs are those who don't care that their own obnoxious behavior will negatively affect how others view XZ. Most of the real XFXs care for XZ's reputation so they often interact politely and carefully unless the other party made nasty remarks first.

    • @abc, "most of the real XFXs care for XZ care for XZ's reputation so they often interact politely and carefully unless the other party made dirty remarks first." Excuse me! Where did you get this idea? Just to the opposite based upon what I read on Chinese SM and Youtube. Quite a few Youtubers making XZ-only contents constantly attacked other celebrities, by either dissing, mocking, or insinuating any negative or vile images of these targets. For example, Youtuber Klxgg and some others draw 100s thousand views to a lot of the vids they made talking about XZ and they were constantly mocked other C celebrities. In the comment sections under those vids, you can read they fought with other XZ fans not agreeing with their tendency to attack other celebrities and had pile-on over those who disagreed with their behavior. Those are close-rank xfx who are very unfriendly to celebrities other than XZ. You tell me these rabid bananas care for XZ's reputation by spreading rumors of other celebrities. LOL

    • @Lilith, As usual you're deranged and delirious! Other than being a huge mouthpiece of CCP, what else can you bring to make your comments constructive? Your twisted information is a blatant proof of brainwashed CCP stooge!

      RM's dating rumor was on top1 hot searches when I checked Weibo last time! How the fuck did you claim C netizen didn't care much about this gossip??? You're blinded and deafen by your sickening mindset. Claiming yourself not a diehard fan of XZ while always lurking to harass me who have been a stanch fan since his Our Song era. You've been stalking and harassing me not bcos you care about XZ but bcos you got offended many times when I was pretty scathing about the culture under CCP regime.
      I care about how XZ's doing in C-ent and hope the best for his career. I watched ALL his interviews and checked any updates about him on C social media or news media every day, both in Chinese and English. He's my fave. But also as XZ suggested several times, he welcomes critiques and would continue to improve himself. All my critiques have been focused purely on his works not on his or his coworkers' private life. In contrast, A LOT of mentally damaged xfx have been constantly engaged in discrediting other celebrities, specifically his former coworkers since 227. These rabid xfx are mentally ill and sincerely need serious counseling. Some pathetic behaviors of xfx are irrelevant to XZ himself. If you think notorious xfx would discredit XZ, then you have exactly the same spurious ideology propagated by CCP regime.
      For the westerners and ppl influenced by democratic values, fans' behavior has nothing at all to do with celebrities themselves. Every individual has their own right of free speech and should be the sole party responsible for their own public remarks and behavior. However, Chinese citizens and oversea Chinese often came out to claim celebrities are liable for fans' awry actions and celebrities' have responsibility to manage fan clubs. The CCP authorities also promote this awful idea. It's such nonsense! So here you are going lunatic again, accusing me of discrediting XZ by criticizing some of his fans' behavior! How the FUCK and ignorant you are unable to tell fans from celebrities!!!!

    • RM's dating gossip made it to the top1 hot search on Weibo. How the heck one delulu like Lilith could dismiss that and said that C netz didn't particularly care much about this piece? I wonder if any oversea Chinese fans would be so embarrassed by the barrage of public shaming on RM's choice of date that they are just desperately trying to deny the ruckus on top1 hot search of Weibo. LOL.

    • Somebody, based on what I read on Weibo of course. Why do you think youtubers making XZ-only contents means they must be XFXs? Youtubers make their money off views, just like Weibo's marketing accounts, it's natural some will deliberately make controversial videos and fuel fire to generate lots of views.

      "...they fought with other XZ fans not agreeing with their tendency to attack other celebrities and had pile-on over those who disagreed with their behavior"
      ^I think the above sounds very much like you.

    • @Somebody Read again. I said rather than the actual dating news, C-netz cared more about how the gossiper Zhang Xiaohan made the director look like a handsome young guy in the manhwa which obviously isn't accurate. And top 1 hot search doesn't mean anything, being on top 1 hot search for one minute with just 1k views is also top 1. Not going to bother with the rest of your lunacy.

      @Yukimi @abc Exactly. This is why I'm convinced this Somebody is a XZ anti who keeps track of everything related to XZ. Despite so many people telling him that his actions have negative impact to XZ, he completely dismisses them as if he majors in human psychology and still carries on this behaviour under the guise of freedom. He doesn't love XZ, he only loves himself. You really got to wonder, he hates so many things related to the Chinese - CCP, Chinese citizens, overseas Chinese, Chinese fans, Chinese fan culture etc - yet he still happily consumes Chinese entertainment which consists of so many things he hates.

    • @Lilith, this comment is in response to your lunacy again labeling me as XZ anti based upon your spurious theory about how XZ's fans and antis would talk like online and what kinds of opinions they may have! I don't care if you read this or not since other ppl will read the whole conversations and realize that many Chinese fans like you are pretty close minded, basically brainwashed by toxic ideology and screwed up! You've never denied when I wondered if you're associated with the CCP since you have identified yourself with anything related to the regime so much that you can't put up with any criticism. Rather, you diverted the attention to calling me XZ antis. That's a very convenient trick and has been abused by many Chinese fans. In the west, we don't just throw easy tags like "antis" or "haters" on ppl who are not on the same page with ourselves in communication. But you Chinese fans have been doing this lowly trick all the time to conveniently discount opposite opinions. The problem of fan wars doesn't lie with me but with your twisted attitude about free speech!

      There's no conflict between liking certain artistic features of the Chinese culture and detesting the CCP regime. I don't equate the whole Chinese culture to the CCP regime but YOU ARE! That's your major issue why you can't tolerate and respect fans' difference in opinions not to your liking; such a behavior pattern is so similar to how CCP reacts to dissidents! I've been scathing about pathetic Chinese fan culture which is more or less promoted by the CCP authorities, not the Chinese culture as a whole. Poor production quality of Chinese dramas is also an undeniable fact. I showed several popular C costume dramas to a CGI engineer who has no exposure to any Asian dramas at all; he immediately pointed out the crappy quality of Chinese settings and CGI motions etc. I've just been critical of Cdramas based upon hard facts no bcos I hate anything Chinese. LOL. I don't hate Chinese culture since my upbringing was also influenced by Chinese culture. But you can't tell the difference between my criticism of a lot of negative influence under an authoritative regime like the CCP and what's coming from real Chinese haters !! That's how your judgment is all brainwashed and blinded by what the CCP has taught you to think and say! You obviously have not taken advantage of the opportunities in a free world to exercise critical thinking. Therefore you hate me for being critical of your beloved CCP China since you consider CCP = China. For me, CCP =/= China.

      All the art forms manifested in C drama productions have been there for 100s or perhaps 1000s years in the land of China. It's something I appreciate. The beauty of Chinese artistry presented in Chinese dramas and some nuanced elements exuded by some decent actors (XZ included of course) isn't products of communism. Don't be mistaken! LOL. Therefore, your logic is so messed up by mixing them altogether. That's why you can't comprehend why I detest CCP while enjoying some Chinese dramas and acting. I don't have high hopes for you to get my points though after patiently coughing up so many long ass essays. LOL. If you do, God bless you!

    • @Somebody It's hilarious how you think other people will bother to read your long essay which kept droning on and on about CCP like a broken record. You always have the same line of action:
      People call you out for your negative behaviour -> You proceed to label them as Chinese or CCP supporter to invalidate their opinions -> Drones on and on about CCP

      I didn't bother to retort your ridiculous accusations about being Chinese and association/support for CCP previously because my actions speak for myself, it is clear as day that I'm no CCP supporter. Nonetheless, you'll never believe because you don't want to believe in the first place, but most importantly I don't need your validation for my own self-identity. You're the only one here labelling everyone who disagree with you as a CCP supporter here. On the other hand, so many people here agree with me that you are a XZ anti. Since you're also from a democratic country and believe in democracy, I'm sure you'll agree with majority rule, right? Unless you only agree with whatever is convenient for you LOL.

      It's funny how you use the word "we" when you refer to the West. I'm pretty sure I've seen many Western Kpop fans using "XXX anti" and "XXX hater" on the net as well, but of course you'll throw the dirty water to only the Chinese. Similarly, there's plenty of Koreans telling international fans to stop consuming Kpop if they disagree with anything else regarding Korea. Hmmm...so using your words, they can't tolerate and respect differences in opinions not to their liking, right? So would you say they are similar to CCP and support CCP too? And you yourself also can't tolerate and respect difference in opinions, so you are also similar to CCP hahaha.

    • @Lilith, you're exactly slapping your own face! While you accuse me being unreasonable to call you and others out as CCP stooges and you deny, you can't take my correction on your false accusation that I'm a XZ anti that quite a few visitors here also agreed with me. So you said you knew your own identity. Equally I know my own identity and who's my fave. I don't need an online nobody like you to tell me how to behave and what to say and who I am as a drama fan. LOL. Who the heck do you think you are! So toxic! There're no points to communicate with a dim-witted CCP stooge like you any more. It's wasting my time. Your insanity has no bearing on my life. If you keep throwing shade and attacking me, I won't hesitate to return what you deserve, i.e., insult! You're totally hopeless !!!!!

    • @Somebody You really do have comprehension issues. I'll simplify it for you:
      - You accuse me and others of supporting CCP merely because we disagree with you, this means you have no evidence to back up your accusations.
      - I claim that you are a XZ anti based on the fact that you continuously attract negative attention to XZ and being aggressive to other people here while loudly proclaiming yourself to be a XZ fan which clearly will make some people view XZ and his fans negatively. This is my evidence to support my claims.

      If you really knew your own identity and is confident of it, you wouldn't have been so agitated everytime and responded to every single person who told you that you behave like a XZ anti. Remember, I didn't give you any response previously for the numerous accusing responses you threw to me until this article. This is proof of my confidence.

    • @Lilith, it's a fact that I'm a staunch fan of XZ and he's my bias. How many times have I repeated like a parrot? LOL. But you don't listen. So I think you have some mental problems. I said you're a CCP stooge since you got worked up each time I'm critical of the pathetic phenomena including sick fan culture in China under the CCP regime and oppressive tendency to silence different opinions in Cdrama fan circles. You instead label me as a XZ anti to divert issue conveniently to avoid critical thinking of why I'm scathing about those pathetic phenomena including what I've observed inside xfx fandom. You attacked me not bcos of my comments but bcos of your own insecurity about your root culture and got embarrassed since you associate yourself with the Chinese culture influenced by the CCP regime.

      In the west, we don't have such nonsense as "negative attention." LOL. I have reminded you of the difference in treating public speech between China and the democratic west and asked you to respect any different opinions regardless of how you feel about those comments and how you perceive those comments "negative" (while many others don't see negativity in reasonable critiques of dramas). But you don't heed! That's why I consider you too close minded and doesn't fit in a free world. I've come across many C drama fans complaining about how Chinese fans accused them of haters or antis while they were not but just giving criticism that is considered all normal and common in any online debates in the west. But you and your toxic peers have a fetish to adopt the Chinese fan culture to throw shade on anyone to your disliking and label ppl haters or antis, trying conveniently to just silence different opinions you don't like. This is very oppressive and very similar to the CCP regime that has always tried so desperately to silence dissidents by calling them traitors.

      Let me give one more analogy to show how illogical and overbearing you and many Chinese fans are! Do you purchase Gucci or Tods or Wedgwood or Zenith? If not, then I can call you a XZ anti since XZ antis have vowed to not buy anything XZ endorses! You're doing EXACTLY THE SAME thins as XZ antis are doing. LOL. By the same token and twisted reasoning you have been nonstop in each post calling me a XZ anti just bcos I criticize xfx's fan culture and many antis do that. LOL. You're screwed up and blinded and can't see the points. There's no point for me to identify myself a staunch fan of XZ if I were not. This is just entertainment that takes the least priority among many matters in my life. Why should I insist myself a XZ fan (and also rave about him almost always) to invite hate from bananas like you guys? LOL

      You and many Chinese fans have to change your own ways of thinking and judging drama fans including those who just appreciate free expressions in a democratic society like here in the US. Please respect and don't throw shade right away once you read something not to your liking or getting on your nerve. Please respect and be tolerant! One more time, please respect!

    • Indrani

      @Somebody You seriously don't bring any new points to the table. Truly a parrot. Seems like you only know how to copy the other party's words and throw it back at them regardless whether it applies or not, then continue labelling them as Chinese or CCP. Well, I'm not the agitated one typing long essays and inserting tons of exclamation marks into my sentences.

      Again you flooded the rest of your reply with the usual "CCP and China bad", "West and democracy good" yada yada. And conveniently skip over my previous points regarding those Western Kpop fans and Koreans who, according to your logic, are similar to CCP, plus yourself LOL.

      I'm not a XZ fan, but I do own Gucci and Tods products along with Dior, Chanel, Celine etcetc. So? What is this supposed logic that you're referring to? Did I vow not to buy any celebrity-endorsed products? You don't have any logic.

      "Why should I insist myself a XZ fan..to invite hate from..you guys?" LOL then stop insisting? Why do you have to proclaim youself as a XZ fan everytime you make nasty remarks towards other celebrities and drag him and XFXs into unrelated articles attracting negative attention? Why can't you just represent yourself as an unique individual instead of "XZ fan"?

    • @Lilith, there's no end to your lunacy! I'm a XZ fan and that's the fact! I don't need other Chinese bananas to certify me as a fan of XZ. LOL. I enjoy his acting style and music stage. That's enough. Your persistent labeling me as a XZ anti is all out of spurious accusations very similar to CCP's fetish calling dissidents traitors. That's what I detest the most and why I have very low regard for you and other similar CCP stooges. I don't have to digress to Kpop or Jpop or other Asian pop culture since that's not the focus here. I've seen the same lowly tactic used by many Chinese ppl on SM again and again to digress and divert the focus to something else.

      You're inconsistent throughout your own comments on this site. You now finally confessed you're not a XZ fan while you have been constantly positioning yourself as if you were a XZ fan defending him, using his career and fame as an excuse to be snarky about my criticism of the Chinese fan culture under the CCP regime! How similar is this underhanded trick to what CCP has been using everywhere!!! Now I'm even more convinced you're associated with the CCP authorities since you have a habit aggressively defending any criticism of that atrocious regime given your track records on this site, just under disguise to defend Xiao Zhan who's not even your fave. LMAO. Such a sneaky hypocrite !!!! Nope! You're not defending him since you're not even his fan as you finally admitted. What you have just commented has proved that all my points about you and other CCP lackeys are valid !!! XZ is just an easy scapegoat for you nuts to digress and divert attention from pathetic Chinese fan culture under the CCP to something else. You have to seriously check your psychotic mental state!

    • @Somebody Too bad your actions don't match your words. Ah..you said you don't have to digress to other things since that's not the focus here? That's so double standards of you when you are the one who digressed from non-XZ-related articles in the first place LOL.

      What inconsistency? I've repeatedly said that I'm not a XZ fan. It's either you or some other idiot here calling me a XZ fan just because I spoke up for him. I sided with XZ during the 227 incident after his antis jumped on me just because I didn't agree with their twisted logic. That's why I'm particularly knowledgeable about him and what had taken place back then. That's probably also why I take extra notice of his news and dislike seeing people like you smearing his name. I've seen enough of his antis exhibiting the same behaviour as you do. You can go on and on about CCP all you like, it'll only make people see you as a crazy lunatic. I bet you have no friends in RL because you're such an embarrassment.

    • @Lilith, Finally admitting not a XZ fan just proves you're a busybody that XZ has disapproved of since you have had a fetish to meddle in other drama fans' free speech. You got offended and worked up the first time I criticized CCP and have been stalking/attacking me persistently since then, always accusing me of being a XZ anti cos you know I'm his fan instead. I don't mind repeatedly reminding ppl you're a CCP lackey and the dishonest trick you've been using to bully me is exactly the same as the CCP, always accusing dissidents of being traitors. It's useless for you to deny that. You've got track records on this site showing you've been defending CCP and that's why you've been targeting me all the time. I absolutely have no respect for you! Such shame on you!

    • @Lilith, LOL. The one inconsistent is a stalker and CCP bully like you, not me!
      You're obviously too old to recall your own words exactly. You always positioned yourself and spoke like xfx to call out XZ antis and haters. Only one time you said that you're not a diehard fan of XZ in response to ppl questioning your prejudice against other actors. If you are not even a fan of XZ as you just admitted early in this thread, why did you say you're not a diehard fan in another thread? You could have said that you were not even a fan of XZ in the first place as you did here. Basically you changed your argument inconsistently just to defend your big ego. I can't take you seriously. Since you're very vocal with all kinds of "anti" "hater" crap nonsense and have a fetish to throw shade on me, I'll be eyes for eyes in return until you stop spewing trash!

    • @Somebody Lmao you got nothing else to counter so you can only keep repeating the same delirious speech. Now you even made up words that XZ has never said before, some "fan" you are. You're not just delusional, you're also a habitual liar. I only bother replying to you when I see you giving false info or smearing XZ's name while pretending to be his fan. Of course, being the insecure loser you are, you start accusing everyone who calls you out or disagree with you as Chinese or CCP. I WILL continue informing everyone about your antics whenever I see you attempt to spread false info or smear XZ's name. Mark my words.

  • Please stop dragging XZ and XFXs into every article and attracting unwanted attention to them. XZ antis often use this type of tactics on Chinese SNSs.

    • I'm not on Chinese SM. I'm commenting on a blog open to a democratic society that values freedom of speech and critical thinking! Stop suggesting us conforming to the same pathetic Chinese fan culture!

    • BTW, it seems some of you Chinese have a fetish to collectively throw everyone into one basket! XZ has a huge fanbase. How could you expect everyone among his fans should have the same ideas and opinions about anything? LOL. I have to confess I'm so sickened by Chinese fans' pattern to stop other ppl from speaking of their own mind. I guess all the pile-on me on this site have been coming from the Chinese who have ties with China. The behavior attacking ppl with different opinions are so similar to what I observe on Chinese SM. It's so oppressive just like the CCP regime. It's dang obnoxious! SMH

    • I have seen this too @Somebody, the exportation of Chinese fan culture to non-Chinese fans and I don't think it is a good thing. A seemingly helpful Chinese fan translates articles related to the artist into English. They contribute constantly like it's a job and float to the top to become a kind of fan leader. The non-Chinese fans become dependent on the content and community it creates. Then the slight manipulations start, we should be kind and good fans, we shouldn't speak negatively, we should help promote this or that, after a while there is a whole How to be a goody two shoes fan guide to group think. Anyone who speaks freely gets accused of being a hater or starting fan wars and the process to get the person ostracized starts. I actually think some of these fan leaders are are paid PR, some are quite clever and subtle in how quickly they herd the sheeple and get people to conform.

    • @Somebody

      Why are you being so aggressive towards a simple request to just not attract unwanted attention to the celebrity that you supposedly support? This is not just Chinese fan culture, Kpop fandoms also advocate the same. What you are doing here is beyond speaking your own mind, you are literally attacking XZ.

      @Rrrt

      Anyone who speaks freely...Nope. Most of the time your so-called speak freely means speak aggressively. What's wrong with advocating for people to be kind and good? I definitely prefer to live in a world where people are kind towards each other rather than a world where everyone act nastily and deliberately go against regulations just because they don't want to "conform".

      By the way, it can also be the other way round where the supposed "fan leader" is created or paid by rivals to generate chaos in a celebrity's fandom.

    • @Rrrt I'm not trying to start drama or tell people what to do. People can speak freely and have a negative opinion on any celebrity. There's been many on this site, such as people saying so and so is just a visual and can't act, amongst other things. You can also have a negative opinion on XZ. I agree with most of the critiques of his drama choices in recent years. After the Untamed, I've honestly did not like any of his dramas. However, Somebody has exhibited a constant habit of bringing XZ into every conversation even when the article has nothing to do with him. Admittedly, this one is probably warranted since I do think RM got a lot of hate after TLP with XZ. However, I will say that if it's a one-off thing that Somebody does, I highly double other people like Lilith would be commenting on their behavior. I've been a bystander on this site for a long time but enjoy reading people's perspectives in articles, and have also observed this is a repeated thing for Somebody. But of course, Somebody has the right to say whatever they want. Just like Somebody finds XFXs' behavior obnoxious, other people can also find Somebody's behavior obnoxious. It's a two way street in a "democratic society."

      I won't be commenting further because I don't want you all to think we're gatekeeping comments here. Just trying to explain my perspective as well.

    • @4ever I always LMAO when extreme fans say 'If you have nothing nice to say then don't say anything' in an attempt to silence people when they see a comment they don't like that maybe going against their narrative. In response I always say the most critical and inappropriate thing that comes to mind. So no I don't like how be good and nice is used in fandom to control the conversation and narrative.

      I also think you are being pretty aggressive yourself accusing @somebody of something with so much certainty when no can know for sure but @somebody.

      Plus if you believe they are a anti, why are you asking them to the right thing and stop, like that's going to work lol.

      Anyway I do agree that Chinese fandom is full of snakes and rats. And through these long ass comments and discussions everyone can see it is a cesspit and should be careful if they want to step into it too deeply.

      @realxzfan I appreciate that you did not escalate matters. Again I don't think you can be so sure of what @Somebodys intentions are. I also bring up actors that are not mentioned in the article, normally it's the context of the article that makes me think of another actor or it's in response to another comment or a comparison to another actor. I don't see a problem with this.

      Maybe it would be a good idea to have a open discussion post once per week so people can talk about whatever they want. I would be interested in drama recommendations plus I am watch a new cdrama that I freaking love and am waiting for the right article to come up so I can bring it up.

    • @Rrrt

      What does being a kind and good person has to do with that? I don't understand. And what did I accuse Somebody of? I pleaded with her to stop dragging and attracting unwanted attention in my original comment. I never said she's an anti. How is this aggressive? Yet she responded so rudely to me while you accuse me of accusing her.

    • @Rrrt, OMG! You have spoken of my mind about what has been going on with Cdrama fandoms. I'd like to yell to those desperately trying to sell Chinese fan culture and behavior patterns outside China: just stop exercising all kinds of crazy mental gymnastics on international Cdrama fans! Stop labeling and bullying ppl with diverse views deviating from the mainstream Chinese ways of thinking. I've seen the patterns you described over and over again. It's just getting worse, specifically among xfx who I think have suffered PTSD due to 227 and have become passive aggressive, offensive-defensive, not able to make good discernment in many situations. Really unhealthy! I've seen them so scathing about Ren Min. That actually affected TLP's ratings. I stopped them from being emo and negative about the FL. But they did not listen and had a pile-on over me instead. So idiotic of them! They have done more harm than good to XZ. Those are Chinese-speaking fans of XZ on Youtube mostly.

    • @realxzfan, LOL your name is so farcical! Ppl may have different definitions about "obnoxious." For me, I value free speech the most even some remarks aren't favorable to most ppl or sound marginalized. What I consider most obnoxious is when ppl tell online strangers to shut up just bcos they don't like what's been said. You and Lilith et al are the latter, very obnoxious to me! Since I've been in the US for decades and I appreciate free speech so much, I can't bring myself to approve of your judgmental attitude. I think you guys are more Chinese than democratic!

      Once again, why can't I mention XZ all the time? Are there any laws prohibiting me as his diehard fan from doing so? LOL. If you are annoyed by my constant raving about XZ and intense interest in anything relating to him, just move on, which is the civil way in the democratic society to tolerate different opinions. Did I injure or kill anyone or steal anything from ppl by speaking of XZ in an Asian drama blog? LMAO! Don't throw shade on me just becos you don't like my opinions or the way I fangirl over XZ. For what reasons should I conform myself to other xfx? Nobody should be like that neither in the free society! This is not China!

    • @4ever No need to get upset over these people. I got a feeling they are a gang (perhaps even the same person) tasked to promote negativity towards C-ent. Notice how they always ignore when you made valid points, choosing to dwell on other issues instead?

    • @Lilith! You still can't get over your insanity! LOL. Here came the conspiracy theory nuts again when you ran out of any valid points! What a demented banana you are! I bet many other commenters who aren't me are laughing at you. OMG!

    • @Somebody, Nope I'm laughing at you instead.

    • @Anon, LMAO. You have no idea how many times yourself are a laughingstock on this site? Just check your track records how many times you rambled deliriously and bitched unfounded complaints about Koala. Ppl have been laughing at and pissed by you. But it's me telling them to let you rant since you're entitled to exercise your right of free speech even most of the time your comments look more delirious than sane. LOL

    • @Somebody, ROFL different Anon here. You are a complete joke.

  • LOL You're the only obnoxious lunatic here. Poor Xiao Zhan, what did he do to deserve your constant damage to his reputation?

    • @Anon, should you look into the mirror yourself? LOL. You're literally referring to yourself!

      You're overstating my influence! I have power to damage the most popular C star's reputation? LMAO. I have no idea I'm that important! Hahahaha

  • The fact that you don’t know the story behind why xz’s fans are called Peter Pan explains why you’re not his fan but an anti pretending to be his fan. Gotta hand it to you for still pulling this long con. Why else do you get agitated so easily when you get called out for blackening XZ’s name? Why else you hate him so much that you have to dragged him under almost every c-ent post when they have nothing to do with him, hating on him and his fandom? XZ and xfx minding their own business but here you are everyday like a regular clockwork. Talks like an anti, smells like an anti….

    And lol, accusing xfx of hating on ren min during tlp broadcast? We all know whose fandoms were behind these hate on rm and tlp. You may fool some people here who don’t understand the fan circle on weibo but you’re not fooling everybody. Your rantings will reveal yourself sooner or later, lol.

    • Here came another deranged xfx again! LOL. Same old same old rambling blah blah blah other fandoms behind all the attacks on Ren Min and other costars of XZ. Go check out that Youtuber channel yourself: Klxgg. (LOL I'm doing free ads for his channel !) He and his xfx followers basically have been constantly dissing RM's visuals and her acting since The Longest Promise premiered in July. Until just a few days ago when RM's dating rumor broke out on Chinese SM, he's still mocking her a failure in everything. Klxgg is a huge fan of XZ. I used to urge him to refrain from criticizing XZ's costars like Wang Yibo, Yang Zi, and now Ren Min. But he and his xfx followers refused to do so. I had unsubscribed his channel since. Why don't you go call him out rather than bullying me here! It's useless!

      BTW, why should I know the origin of xfx as a fan of XZ? Such a ridiculous accusation! Every savvy fan can tell you're making nonsense, being farcical !

    • @somebody you run around claiming to be his biggest fan yet you don’t know that his fandom name came from Xiao Zhan himself, specifically from a drawing he completed at the beginning of his career? His fandom that you are doing your best to smear on the international level because some of them are gullible enough to believe your half truth and half lies.

      If you understand xiao zhan’s history in the last few years, if you’re a true XZ fan, then you know your antics and rantings have the same characteristics of his antis in the past. As true XZ fans, we don’t go around ranting and raving about him or criticizing other fandoms and smearing his name like you are doing.

      Also, you’re smearing his entire fanbase based on a yxh (marketing) acct on YouTube and comments there claiming to be his fans? Is youtube where you get your news about XZ and his fan. Lol. Who is the deranged person here?

    • @Frau, you're making exactly the same faulty judgment and accusation about me as other Chinese fans (not only xfx) have been doing all the time.

      1. When did I proclaim myself to be XZ's biggest fan? Stop putting your own words in my mouth to throw shade on me! LOL. I really can't have high regard for ppl who don't even recall what others said but making up false accusation. I'm a huge fan of XZ but not to the point of obsession like many xfx. He's not my God. I don't worship idols. I believe there're way many fans investing a lot more time and whatnot about XZ than I do. So I'm absolutely not the biggest fan! I have never ransacked the shelves of luxurious brands once XZ's endorsements were announced. I'm not that obsessed. LOL

      2. How the heck should I know the origin of xfx as his official fandom name to be his fan? Excuse me! Are you making up your own dictionary of different definition of "fan?" Here's what I copied pasted from Cambridge online dictionary:
      Fan: someone who admires and supports a person, sport, sports team, etc.

      Is knowing the origin of how xfx came to be his fandom name a necessary condition to support XZ and therefore to be called a fan of XZ, by any laws or rules? LMAO. I bet XZ doesn't agree with you either. He's savvy but you like many xfx aren't ! That's why he constantly reminded you guys to get a real life and don't meddle in others' business, specifically online speech! You think you're policing his fandom by telling his fans what to think, say, and do? That's really extra! Busybody! SMH

      3. If you don't even call out and censure those many online influencers with 100s of 1000s followers who claim to be diehard xfx while tarnishing xfx's reputation almost every day by discrediting other celebrities and XZ's costars very often, but instead, you bully one individual like me simply speaking of my own mind about C drama, and you also persistently accuse me of being an anti, I think you guys' reasoning is all terribly screwed up. Those online xfx influencers are XZ antis not me since they have been doing way more harm than anyone else.

      4. When and how did I smear the ENTIRE fanbase of XZ by exercising my own critical thinking? You got worked up bcos you're conformed to the Chinese way of thinking, oppressing free expression in the name of loving XZ and asked everyone to think and talk exactly the same way under a uniform direction and central command (where is it? LOL) but I disapprove of this obnoxious idea of how XZ fans or any other Cdrama fans should think and talk online. I believe many ppl who actually like XZ very much but distance themselves from the fandom and even XZ's works due to the autocratic ideology and excessive offense/defense coming from A LOT of xfx. I believe there're many savvy xfx out there but they happen to be less vocal so they have no significant impact on the entire image of xfx. So, your accusation is completely false; I'm not smearing the fandom other than speaking of facts. To the opposite, your advocacy of oppressing various ideas and opinions about XZ's works and whatnot through passive aggressive attacks on ppl with comments not to your liking is how you guys leave XZ's fandom a bad taste in ppl's mouth. If you learn to be democratically respectful for all different opinions including criticism or any negative comments rather than telling ppl to shut up, then ppl will respect you and the fandom in return. But I guess you don't have enough wisdom to get my points? Do you?

      BTW, do you buy any luxury brands like Gucci and Zennith etc. to support XZ's endorsements? If not, then by your definition, you're a XZ anti since antis have been vowing to not purchase any products XZ endorses (I guess they can't afford so they basically spewed nonsense LOL). By the same logic you're accusing me of a XZ anti bcos antis have made similar comments/criticism or whatnot. This is how your reasoning has been severely screwed up!

    • @somebody thanks for the essay but I won’t waste my time reading your rubbish trying to defend your anti-XZ and anti-xfx smears and narrative. Please promote his new song and his new Gucci global campaign if you have time to waste. Peace out.

    • great for you to peace out! Finally, hewww! I replied to you out of courtesy. I don't care if you read it or not. But others will.

      BTW, I have no interest to promote a song made for CCP propaganda of Belt and Road Initiatives, even it's sung by my favorite singer. LOL again. It's so stupid of the Chinese authorities to think tapping into Xiao Zhan's huge fame for the state propaganda will promote their state agenda! NO THANKS! It doesn't work on any ppl who know what Belt and Road Initiatives are all about - to trap quite a few 3rd world countries into debt traps that would hoax these governments into other deals to CCP's advantages, e.g., ports and naval bases etc. It's been on the news for years.

      You don't need to read my comments. Other visitors will. I don't comment for ignoramuses to pay attention.

• Not every director can look like Jeon Jong Seo's director boyfriend. Just sayin.

• Meanwhile, this is how normal people look like.

• this director if he goes diet will be more handsome than some geges. just saying.

  • Yeah, he's not bad looking per se, just overweight.

• Yo C-fans, if you married or is dating an original 10, then lucky you. Normal people can’t afford the expensive makeup or surgery to stay youthful. Neither do directors who rather focus on teaching your bias how to act so you’d fall in love with them.

• Somewhat unrelated but I remember seeing articles about how she’s not pretty enough in the Longest Promise but didn’t really look at her pics or read past the headline. Meanwhile, I’ve also been semi paying attention to the filming of the “the legend of Ning” cause one of my fav kids is in it and it took me the longest time to make the connection that she’s the main lead in there cause the pics I saw from Ning, she has the sweetest face that my mind didn’t make the connection Cnets were criticizing the same person 😅

  • I looked up the drama you mentioned and realized you're right! She's unrecognizable in that production. She looks so pretty (see for yourself in https://mydramalist.com/photos/vXQ84q_3) The stylist from The Longest Promise really did her disservice.

    • Wow how did it get that bad in longest promise? Damn the makeup team aas really shitty

    • Her styling in TLP somehow made her nose look bulbous and prominent. It's probably the bangs? But yeah, I agree with you two, she's way prettier in other dramas and in real life lol

  • She's actually an incredible actress. I saw her in Serenade of Peaceful Joy, and her story was really heart wrenching, and her emotional scenes were amazing. She's also had quite a few magazine shoots where I found her stunning. I do think the stylist and makeup artist didn't do her any favors in TLP. Is one of your fave kids Wu Yuheng or Nine? Because I found them both adorable Produce Camp :).

    • @realxzfan… it’s Nine that’s one of my top fav kids from Chuang 2021 🫶. I only really got into Cent due to that show so it’s been fun for me to see those kids going out into the world and helping me make connection between all these more famous celebs on Koala’s blog ☺️

• But if she dates someone really good-looking, netizens be saying she's too ugly for him. Finding love is hard in this day and age - so good for her!

  Feel bad for this director. He just got started in his directing career and Night Wanderer - starring big names like Deng Lun and Ni Ni- has been shelved since Deng Lun got him cancelled.

• The way the oppressive Chinese and Korean governments and societies create these crazed netizens that actually have nothing better to do in life than fixate on celebs and their lives because they're so pressed by the pressures of life is WILD.

• China houses a huge population with different people and opinions, so there are going to be some vapid people who only think about looks. He could have a great personality and a lot of talent that she admires. The only people who know the relationship and whether they will work out are them two. I hope they get to date in peace.