Park Min Young in Talks to Star in K-drama Confidence Man KR Adapted From Popular J-dorama

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• I really like park min young. People just hate her for petty reason. There are a lot of actors/actresses doing the same role and genres every time, and people only just criticize pmy. I hope this will be another hit from her.

  • The audacity, it's so annoying seems like she gets hate for being the queen of chemistry another thing that is underrated is how all her male leads shine with her,na inwoo is a recent example, I remember noone was excited for this pairing and look what happened. Sure she does romance often but I don't see people having the same energy for those that stick to certain genres too like lee jehoon (who I adore don't get me wrong). Also, it seems like alot of actors lee Jehoon, LGJ and KNG for example and many others for actresses I've heard hyojoo also said she wants to do romance ,it's not PMY's fault she gets these countless offers.

    • Oooohhhh, the AUDACITY of people to give their opinion on the career of a celebrity 😲

    • They have a point, guys can do same genre crime etc noone questions their versatility but god forbid an actress does the same. It's quite strategic too, doing romcoms while you still can due to the ageist nature of the industry.

    • @Kells
      Lee Je-hoon has always been questioned on his ability to do rom coms. I.e. he has zero chemistry. He recently talked about wanting to do romance with KES or PJE which I found utterly audacious and ridiculous given his long standing record. These two star writers only work with A-list actors who have chemistry. Unless he wants a role like LDH’s in The Glory.

      The other actors mentioned are simply ridiculous. LJG’s literal last drama was a genre romance, not some crime drama. KNG is doing a comedy next in Fiery Priest 2, again - not a crime drama. This isn’t about women vs men. This is about versatility of roles. But we all know PMY has been typecasted for years on end now. So romances is probably the only script she ever gets offered. If she wants to work, she’s got to take those on. This new one is more female centric (thanks likely to MMH’s success) which I say is a win for her.

    • Although LGJ and KNG seemed to have been cast for quite a few crime dramas, their characters weren't all the same in all the stories. They were able to showcase great acting with nuanced portrayal of their characters. They were very convincing to tell the story of the character in each of these crime dramas. At the end, that's what fans look for. LGJ, for example, was the soul of Flower of Evil. For such a psychological crime drama, it's very impressive he could pull off that complicated character, who fooled viewers around about who he was in the plot. They were very convincing to tell the story of the character in each of these crime dramas and their acting sell. Another example of great acting is Shin Ha Kyun.

      Some famous actors, however, appeared to have good chemistry with their leading ladies but were almost always outshone and overshadowed by their FLs' great acting, only proving themselves impressive in a certain unique genre eventually. LOL. How does that imply they are more versatile than actors like LJG or KNG or SHK? The comparison is laughable!

    • @somebody

      Shin ha kyun was awful in a romcom movie he did can't even remember the name of it, it's with Song jihyo, it shows that not everyone has that knack for romance. Maybe the reason they stick to those genre is cause they're not good. A few comments also have mentioned lee jehoon as an example but I like him in tomorrow with you, hmm.
      On your last paragraph, there's a few actors like that haha,no point in saying who as it'll ruffle feathers for sure.

    • @Kailey b, that's my point, meaningless to make comparison.

      I'd risk getting pile-on again. A lot of KSH fans hail him to be a versatile king with great chemistry with all the actresses he costarred with, and therefore qualified to be considered A-list. I disagree about his versatility. He's only excellent in The Moon Embracing the Sun and I think that's his best genre because of his intonation and tone of speaking the language? He's weak in One Spring Night, much less impressive compared with LJG in Flower of Evil, not to mention other veteran actors like SHK in Beyond Evil. Therefore, what's the point to say these actors like LJH, LJG, and KNG etc. are not versatile enough and could only take up thrillers or crime dramas? They are GREAT and better than others like KSH in that specific genre and that's what a drama fan like me is looking for, not the lame performance of KSH in OSN or other romcoms where he was overshadowed by his costars. LOL.

      There are very rare versatile actors in showbiz. No need to dismiss certain actors who have found their own niche in a specific genre that is not your cup of tea, be it crime or thriller or action or fantasy or romance. While you appeared to dismiss these actors who don't appear versatile to you and whose works are not appealing to you, others who appeared to have good chemistry with actresses looked totally like a rookie to me in the acting department in crime dramas. LMAO. People have different preference and therefore appreciate different actors. That's fine.

    • Haha, you actually went there. At least you liked him in something; it’s so frustrating when you like an actor in one role, try to follow them, and they end up disappointing. I don’t like him in anything, even though he's paired with actors I like. I've come to terms with that—there are just some actors you can’t stand, and nothing will change your mind. I feel that way about Suzy and AHS too, among others.I like Kim Woobin, but I doubt he could make me sit through a Suzy drama. Btw one Spring Night isn't that Jung Haein's drama.
      Agree with your point of versatility, if an actor crafted a certain niche and is good at it why not carry on, Hollywood actors like Jason Bateman, Jason stratham and keanu reeves have thriving careers and pick projects based on their strengths.

    • @Somebody

      Oh! I think none of Kim Soo Hyun's fans are even aware he was in One Spring Night! Did you just make up some random performance in your pretty little head so you can criticize him...? Cant even be a typo since you wrote that twice. Impressive imagination L M F A O.

      YOU bending over backwards in your attempt to prove Kim Soo Hyun is not an A lister or a versatile actor or whathaveyou doesn't change reality. Your opinion on the matter doesnt change reality and neither does his fan's opinion. And reality is that the industry considers him an A-lister and have done so for the past 12 years, boo. His Baeksangs nominations and wins speak for themselves. All the awards he has outside Baeksangs speak for themselves. The ratings of his dramas speak for themselves. That, is what being an A-lister means. Not Somebody's personal opinion LOL.

    • @Somebody, SO TRUEEEEEEE! KSH was SO *overshadowed* in OSN that I didn't even see his face, hear his voice or feel his presence for a second in that drama. His performance must've been sooooo lame that I erased him from my memory 🤣🤣🤣

    • @Picklesandtomato Stole the words from my fingers on A-listers LOL. Also HAHAHAHA how utterly convenient that @Kailey b, who questions someone’s AUDACITY to give an opinion on an actress’ career, is a JCW Stan who also can’t stand KSH. It’s like a perfectly fitting puzzle just coming along, pfffftttttt.

      Oh and I am indifferent to KSH and have in fact not seen him in anything since The Producers (which he was great on), but anyone who claims he is anything but an S-tier actor is someone not to be taken seriously. It is so out of touch from reality, it’s a battle between utter ridiculousness and hilariousness.

    • Somebody:
      Pile-on? Im a KSH fan but honestly give no sh*ts on what a rando feels about him, or him being overshadowed & lame in a unicorn drama or actual drama. Its such an unpopular opinion that doesnt impact KSH in the slightest. He has all the acknowledgement I care about as a fan. You do you (:

    • LOL. My bad. I admit the mistake. I intended to say One Ordinary Day in which he was a murder suspect.

    • @Pickle&Tomatoes, you obviously missed my points. And you like many visiting this site, can't help bringing excessive mental gym again to gaslight me. LOL. I'm a fan of KSH and I hope he does dramas like Moon Embracing the Sun again. But I have my own taste and assessment of his acting in other dramas that I don't appreciate that much. Him recognized by others or not has no bearings on my review of his dramas and acting. I watch dramas to entertain myself after all, not to pamper fangirls' obsession or recognize critics' reviews. It's all personal. You don't have go extra miles to sell your definition of A-listers in my face. I don't buy it. FAIL. LOL.

      For me, KSH isn't a king in the acting department as many rabid fans declare. He's a good actor but he has his weakness. I like him as many other K actors equally. For me, he's not that extraordinary to the point everyone should worship him. LOL. I don't think he's better than SJK, PSJ, LJG, NGM, and even JCW, to just name a few. LOL.

    • @somebody

      First time ever, I started agreeing the comment you wrote on the topic @Kells and I were discussing. But how on brand of you to then completely lose your marbles and sprout BS. Someone was kind enough to g-i-v-e you the definition of an A-lister. No one needs to s-e-l-l it, just like no one needs to sell the definition of a grape. If you want to delude yourself into thinking a grape is a crane that can crush buildings, thats your discretion. The only thing it would prove is how much of a FAIL your brain is, as usual.

      You meant to say "OOD where he was a murder suspect"... right, OOD was a rom com where the female lead overshadowed him. LOL. The risk of pile on was never on your opinion of KSH. Even as a casual viewer, I know how idiotic your comment is. The risk was entirely on you making a fool of yourself. You took it, as usual. It showed you, as usual.

    • @Gg, I got it you had a fetish to gaslight me with words not out of my mouth but yours as you had done in other threads. When did I say KSH was overshadowed by his female costar in OOD? That was a male centric drama with two ML, him and CSW. FL wasn't significant. He was indeed overshadowed by JJH in My Love from the Star and SYJ in It's Ok to Not Be Ok.

      Get things straight first with your tiny brain next time before getting excited to be engaged in a valid debate! LOL. No offense for my brash wording cos you obviously were excited to instigate a fight! I'm eye for eye.

    • @gg This somebody has rocks in her skull. She keeps imagining herself to be fighting KSH fans yet everyone responding to her are neutrals HAHAHA. I will be totally ok with my bias starring in a drama like MLFTS and being apparently overshadowed by his FL if he can be legit this levels popular. Haven’t seen his new dramas but Wiki tells me KSH was nominated for Baeksangs for both the roles shes complaining about, hulzza. Imagine if she thought he wasn’t overshadowed. She must be expecting him to win all the Baeksangs he was ever nominated for. If you want an anti, it would be nice to have someone like Somebody lmao.

    • @Millie, what's your point reiterating how popular and award worthy KSH is? You folks had trouble stopping excessive mental gym about me. That's why you keep fighting for nothing at best and bullsh*t at worst. 🤣 I've never said KSH wasn't popular. Neither have I ever argued he's not A-list. But your tiny brain cells have no capacity to have peace with opinions that not all his fans admire his acting in all the dramas. I just don't like his acting in those two popular dramas and I stand by my opinions that his FLs in these two dramas outshone him. NYT film critics even praised Seo Yea-ji "mesmerizing" in IONTBO. LOL. They didn't compliment KSH, but they did about SYJ. As a fan of KSH in METS, I agreed with NYT's critics. His nominations in several awards have nothing to do with my independent review of his acting and dramas. Calling me antis because I don't like all his works? It's ok for ppl to randomly praise KSH to the moon, even in a post "irrelevant" to him (using the same idiotic wording out of some foaming mouths LOL) but whoever is critical of his acting or works would be labeled antis? That's a syndrome of mental illness showing trouble tolerating diverse views and should live in North Korea or China where they fit. LMAO

      Enough being said, but it's obvious Kpopper-minded ppl with authoritative mentality have no savvy to comprehend. I wonder why Asian fans are always so zealous to police comment threads with fetish to shut up ppl?

    • @Somebody So MANY words, oooooooohhhhhhh. But first off, when you write too much, you veer into gibberish. Its a particular trait of yours from what I noticed in other posts especially when you use big concepts without knowing their meaning.

      So let’s keep it simple so as to not overload your brain too much. I'll answer your first question. My point on reiterating KSH's popularity and awards and status in the industry is actually quite simple if you had any sense. The drama you talk of where he was overshadowed? He was nominated for BOTH those dramas by an awarding body that is the most respected in Korea and what all actors aim to be a part of. The Baeksangs. I suppose KSH is that talented to be nominated even when he was so "overshadowed". I have not watched IOTNBO but not like SYJ's "mesmerizing" performance won her anything. Guess she didnt mesmerize the experts like she did some NYT editor…

      You go around accusing others of mental illness because they are telling you how ridiculous you are being? Yup, only mentally ill people make claims like that. You clearly want to rile up KSH fans, yet the one fan who even bothered responding to you was way more chill than the neutrals. It goes to show just how many like him outside his fandom. Your individual opinion on KSH’s acting is completely yours to make. You calling out that you think his fans are "rabid" and "praising him to the moon" is also your call. If you had expressed your opinions respectfully, bet it would have been a fruitful discussion. Too bad that was not your intention. Therefore, others calling you out on the very obvious bullshit is our call. So you keep foaming in the mouth with anger over how everyone loves and adores KSH. I'm glad that the person you secretly have such a fetish for happens to be one of Korea's biggest and most respected actors. This wouldn't be half as amusing if the conversation was over some B-lister.

      I'm off on real life duties, but worry not, I'll be back later. And before you start accusing me of trying to shut you up, no no, you keep yapping. I'm happy to continue this for the time being. By the end of it, you might even make a KSH fan out of me!

    • @Somebody

      Eye for an eye? Audacious of you to think you even have one to give. Don’t give it. Use it and read your own previous comment. Amusing for you to think I'd be offended by an uneducated thug. LMAO. You admitted that KSH is a top A-list actor who is also immensely popular. As Millie put it, everyone loves him and that turns you into a raging batshit imbecile. What I wanted was for you to admit what you already did. I have what I want, moving on then.

      Millie - thanks! You got the teenager to an accept what she hates with all her might and it was pretty easy too LOL. I’m good here and you should be too. Next response you get from the teen will be about how we should move from North Korea to Mars.

    • @Gg "Raging batshit imbecile" - LOL I'm stealing that because bull, meet eye HAHAHHA. I was expecting a longwinded gibberish answer from her but seeing at to how so many others called her out since, she tucked her tails and chickened off it seems.

      Oh wells, that is that I guess. I was having fun tbh. Anyway thanks for the chat on A-listers - that was def even more fun lol.

    • @Millie, audacious to bitch about me writing too much while you immediately spewed even longer paragraphs of gibberish! LMAO. (Quoted "audacious" from a few brash but obviously dimwitted loonies on this site because only those who are foaming at their mouths losing control of adrenaline would use such a laughably derogatory wording to others! But here you go! "Audacious" back to whom it belongs to LOL.) Hypocrite much!!!!!

      What trash you rambled is so predictable and boring! For such long-winding lectures that are no way to see any meaningful endings in any forums, which are insignificant nor useful to my real life or professional work, I just don't bother to view the whole bag of garbage. LOL. Have fun on your delirious journey! I have zero interest and patience to accompany you in that trip! You already have enough like-minded loonies on your wagon. LMAO.

  • @gg & millie, must be fun at parties? Can't stop seething? LOL. Trolls close rank together but look collectively asinine! You just made yourselves fools like that. LMAO.

• Queen minyoung is back 😍, wonder who else will be cast with her. Can't wait though, maybe this will be the kdrama to get me out it my slump.

• I really want to see PMY work with fellow A-listers, enough with the nugu's lol . I saw that this weekend she and KSH are both in LA. I never manifested them as a pairing before, but now I see the vision. Imagine their chemistry and the kisses! If it happens, I want to see him dress like his "Queen of Tears" character—basically looking expensive.On topic, excited for her but with all these high profile recent casts I want the same for her and for her to work with A list writers and directors.

  • I hope not.

    • Why not?

      They’re both talented and experienced actors who generate chemistry with their costars and can hold their own. With a good script and directing, it could be the makings of a hit.

    • Same. For completely different reasons as you have, I most definitely hope not.

    • I never doubt PMY; she even made Na Inwoo attractive. It's him I'm meh on. I have a list of other male leads I'd rather see her work with.

    • Fortunately, it's not up to you. Every K-drama fan would rejoice, they're both renowned as the best kissers. For female leads, it's definitely PMY, and for male leads, KSH is one of the best (though PSJ and JCW are hard to beat).

    • Lol, you don’t need to worry about it. Highly doubt KSH or any other A lister will be working with someone like PMY unless she was in a supporting role capacity. When was the last time she had an A list costar? 6 years ago maybe?

    • @butterly
      Out of curiosity why not, they're both so good at romcom so there'd explosive chemistry.

  • I can see PMY being PJE's next female leads, regardless of how we view her work all her FL's have been top-tier. If PJE wants a guaranteed chemistry queen PMY is it. But also PMY needs break from romance, she needs to be in something like glory. Yes I also hope she works with KSH, QOT didn't have enough romance, plus she's not shy with intimate/scenes scenes, which I feel maybe KJW is not comfortable thats why we rarely had any in QOT.

    • Nah lol jiwon is very comfortable with those scenes, watch lovestruck in the city you'll be shook. Qot had so many kiss scenes as shown in the special episodes not sure why it was cut lol, it caused alot of outrage too haha.

    • @millie

      Says the pathetic voyeur who obsessively follows the careers of actors they don’t even care about. There’s no logic in that lol just pure loser behavior.

    • @kaileyb such a clown you diss many actors and I'm obsessed. Your girl is mediocre deal with it,your hypocrisy stinks.

  • Is PSJ her last A list male lead?

    • @doe ewwwww a SYJ Stan calling Jiwon mediocre and her stans tasteless, the audacity lmao your girl is expressionless, toxic and jobless, good luck 😘😘😘😘 and PSJ >>>KSH, deal with it lol

    • He wasn't a bonafide A lister at the time he starred with her, I would say he was transitioning to A lister status at that time. If I may venture to say, that drama really put him on the map and promoted his A lister status and Itaewon Class cemented it.

    • @Lay so you must be ewwwwww who posted below so how about you try and stick to one user name it's fairer and easier to follow. What a muppet. Always bringing up SYJ because you're insecure and threatened. Eve is on Netflix right now so it must burn knowing it was made 2 years ago and is getting recognized internationally. Deal with it. Fun times!!

• I too am fond of Park Min Young...I have watched her grow from Unstoppable High Kick in 2006 as a side character to where she is now.. In every role, one can see she really does her homework for each character she takes on. I may not enjoy all her dramas but many are down to scripts.

  I am happy to watch her slowly recover from such a bad year. Looking forward to her new show.

  • She has delivered many hit dramas, from Sungkyunkwan Scandal to City Hunter to Healer to Secretary Kim to the most recent Marry My Husband. At least, a lot of international fans like her enough to check it out when there's any update about her new drama.

    Some commenters said she's not A-list. An argument like that has no bearing at all. It's for production team, writer, and PD to decide if she is A-list or not. From my perspectives, at least she had picked interesting projects and those end results were good enough to have great entertainment values.

    • I am aware she may not appeal to many..as you can see, this post have generate so many comments on both sides...wow.

      But as I watched her in my veery early drama days...she have plant a seed in me...thus I like to watch her growth. There a few others like Eun-Hye Yun who does that for me.

      So I can be bias towards her...🤣🤣 but if the drama is boring or unenjoyable for me...I will still drop it.

    • @HL, dramas mostly cater to specific markets of audience that producers target. No drama is perfect, nor is any acting cos our own preference is all subjective. While one actor/drama is great to certain fans, it may turn others off, e.g. Queen of Tears. I'm personally not so much the one for romcom unless it has a unique charm but I'm a fan of genres in fantasy/thriller/suspension and now legal/crime. So from my perspectives, it's such huge bigotry for ppl to dismiss actors who have strong resumes in these genres without much romance designed in plots and such biased hubris to only elevate actors who are romance kings/queens. Vice versa. How weird!

• I like her but sadly I don't really like her dramas anymore. Since What's Wrong With Secretary Kim, I think she's trying too much for the style of her characters and a lot of times they look out of place. Forecasting Love and Weather was her last drama I loved.

  • 💯 She does the same style and characters for god knows how many dramas in a row now. It’s so tiring. Before MMH, the last hit she had was Secretary Kim and that was eons ago. Funnily enough, that in itself was a version of most of her other roles.

    • Can't blame her. Female lead roles for actresses over 30's are extremely limited. Unless she wants to play "female lead but is actually supporting character narratively to the male lead" roles. Except for a few, other actresses her age are playing the exact same roles unless they are taking long hiatuses between acting. Some of them I haven't even seen in years but when and if they do come back I expect they're offered the exact same type of roles PMY is getting.

    • @Guest That’s absolutely not true for A list actresses. Han Hyo-joo, Park Bo-young, Kim Tae-ri,, Kim Go-eun all have done various different roles.
      Even actresses like Nam Ji-hyun, Kim Ji-won, IU and Suzy have alllllll taken a variety of roles where they are absolutely the main leads. PMY might not be getting those offers however.

    • Have you even watched when the weather is fine, lol sure that performance is like her romcom ones. Also just because an actor takes versatile roles doesn't make them a good actor. Pmy has carved her niche and is effective at it, she's only started doing romcom after wwwsk before that she did a variety of genres and showcased versatility. Of the actresses u mentioned some of them do similar genres come off it, and if you're counting by one role then same goes for PMY in when the weather is fine.

    • @Kailey b oh yeah? Just because actresses take on versatile roles, that apparently doesnt mean they are good actresses? So, tell me then. Who amongst the actresses I’ve mentioned are not “good actresses”? They have ALL been nominated for Baeksangs in the past 5 years minus NJH who is not in her 30s. Let’s compare that to PMY who has been in the industry doing back to back projects all the time - not different from JCW btw - hasn’t been nominated for a single Baeksang in almost 15 years. Her roles have meandered the same type for the past decade which shows in her non existent list of accolades that count.

      And to answer your questions, I have seen WTWIS, have you? Because if you count THAT as different from her other roles, then I want that coolaid you’re drinking 😂

    • Queen for seven days, A new leaf, Glory Jane, remember war of the son, healer.

      So can we also complain how most actors have the same style in their dramas? Those actors who always play in a thriller/action genres?

    • You're too obsessed with "A listers" lmao. The real a listers are won bin/lbh/jun ji hyun.but, yeah fine.you do you

      There's nothing wrong if she hasnt been paired with your so called "a listers".
      Her last drama was successful anyway cos of her hardwork.your so called "a listers" worked with non a listers too anyways.

      They have their own time to shine.

    • @Bobbie Brown and Lily (because you are both the same person. Try changing your email next time you wanna pretend you’re different ppl lmao)

      The first person who brought up “A-lister” was a PMY fan. Just FYI :)

    • @gg - right. how some diehard stans are so desperate to write multiple comments but can’t even remember to change their emails, like how embarrassing 😂 it’s so obv too w/ the writing style and lack of spaces and punctuations. several other comments below belong to the same person too. “beets”, anyone?

      I like pmy, but I agree with @Millie and @Sayaris. same characters, same styling, same acting in all her dramas. she doesn’t even diversify through movies or anything. she is fully capable of more but she always chooses romance anyway. so many female centric dramas with minimal romance are coming out in the past few years like knight flower, glory, good partner, dose of sunshine, little women, agency, mother, wonderful world just to name some. but she seems hesitant to anything outside her comfort zone. I hope she gets scripts to dramas like that.

    • 2018 is not really "eons ago" 😄

    • Park Boyoung, before Daily Dose of Sunshine, was doing fantasy romance. Was she not typecast? The role she got nominated for, Strong Woman Do Bong Soon, was not exactly challenging. She deserved a nomination for Daily Dose of Sunshine,which is a shame.

      And Suzy, lol. After 14 years in her career, she's getting away with bland acting despite writers and directors catering to her limited ability. Now, with one role, she's suddenly an excellent actress?

      All that obsession with Baeksang... the fact they never nominated Taeri and Goeun for their masterful performances, and constantly snubbing Lee Jehoon, says it all. Many agreed JCW should've been nominated for Worst of Evil, but oh well, at least he's thriving.

      I really don't get your fixation on downplaying PMY, saying her wtwif role is same as her usual charming romcom role. You might want to get your eyes checked! She's proven to be a good actress and starred in the critically acclaimed Queen for seven days and Sungkyunkwan Scandal, with the latter giving her a baeksang nom.

    • @millie

      Park minyoung is hardly the best actress, but she's so much better than Nam Ji Hyun and Suzy, let's be real. Ji Hyun has done so many projects, yet none have made an impact. IU is good but still has a lot to prove.

      Most of the criticism towards Park minyoung is for doing female-centric roles, so where's the criticism for ji-won ? All her shows are romances and male focused, like IU she needs to prove herself. Hyo Joo, even with all her awards, still gets mixed reactions to her acting. But what's admirable is that she goes beyond and challenges herself especially in physicality and doesn't care about looking pretty. Park minyoung is her age, and I can't imagine her playing a mom and not wearing heels . I hear in her new role she'll be like a tomboy, finally!

    • @Kailey b Here’s the difference you cannot process it seems. Critically acclaimed actors and actresses missing out on one Baeksang nomination doesn’t render them with zero nominations in well over a decade LOL. True critically acclaimed actors and A-listers have multiple Baeksangs to their names. At the very least they don’t have only one that’s 15 years old lmao. Also where on earth did you get the info that they “never” nominated KTR and KGE? Are you okay? KGE WON this year’s Baeksang best movie actress. KTR WON 2 years ago for 2521. She did not get nominated this year because the other actresses were that good, but that one lack of nomination still leaves her with many in the past 5 years, let alone a decade. And it’s hilarious how you bring up JCW. Lmao another “thriving” actor who takes on almost every project he gets offered and yet has not a single Baeksang nomination to his name. His fangirls (i.e. those “many agreed peeps”) screamed murder when he did not get nominated for Worst of Evil at Baeksangs this year when he most definitely did not deserve it. Which was clearly proven when he proceeded to get completely disregarded by the Blue Dragon Series awards. The awards does not even take nominate broadcast dramas so he should have been a shoe-in according to his fangirls… Really shows just how “great” he is.

      Who else, Suzy? Suzy is 8 years younger than PMY and has shown how a weak actress can improve to the point where they can get Baeksang nominations and win big awards. She took on a challenge and did amazingly whereas where do you see PMY taking on challenges like Anna? Anything even half way as challenging as that? Right, you cant, because she doesn’t.

    • Do I have to spell it out? I meant Go Eun and Taeri not being nominated for Little Women and Revenant, which was deemed controversial. And are you dense or just forgetful? You mentioned JCW first.

      Thinking it's just fangirls is petty. Casual viewers watched it too; it's not some basic romcom. No point arguing with someone so pressed. Bugger off if you dont rate their acting then, what use is it obsessing over their awards? Couldn't be me.

    • @Kailey b Rather than spell it out, basic English would suffice. Read your own words again instead of expecting others to read your mind. And so back to the conversation, your point is Baeksang not nominating KTR and KGE for those dramas “says it all”? Says what exactly? That their nomination picks “seems controversial”? Seems like a clutching straws accusation then considering there wasn’t a single nominee who should have been left out as far as kfans were concerned. But I guess Baeksang leaving out A-listers for other great performances are to poo poo over. Funnily enough, that’s the very fact that makes Baeksangs so prestigious. Doubt KTR or KGE are so pressed for it considering one won this year and the other likely to win next. Unlike your unnier and oppar, they don’t have just 1 drama to pin alllllll their futile hopes on like… JCW lmao.

      And so on that topic, you think casual fans were clamouring for JCW? 😂 yeah, right, in your dreams lmfao. Go check out Baeksang’s best actor nominees TQ posts for this year. There are several and out of the 3000+ comments combined, you’ll be hard pressed to find even 20 mentioning JCW. Again, the Blue Dragons proves my point.

      I don’t need to rate someone’s acting as high to have an opinion on it. That’s not how this works sadly no matter how much you fangirlies want it to. So nah, I’ll stick around. If you can’t find the facts to fight with, you may take your own suggestion and bugger right off ;)

    • Agree @Millie, she kept the same style since What's wrong....and never changed since then . Even in Marry my husband , the style was too much for the role . Some are complaining that she is typecasted but she stills getting roles that's what matters for her . Only a few actresses get challenging roles from time to time . The roles in dramaland are very repetitive ( chaebols, hardworking girls, attorneys, detectives, ...) The real challenge is to try to play the roles in a new light which is hard , working with a good script writer, director, cast,...Song Hye Kyo has to wait a long time for "The glory"

    • Nah, you’re just slow. Are you a secret fangirl? He was on most lists. How are you making up these imaginary scenarios? You seem more fixated on him than his actual fans and ogling like a voyeur lol again couldn't be me but you do you lol.

    • @Millie
      I found myself nodding to all your points and even all the actors and actresses you brought up. First off, I totally agree on who you consider an A-list. I would argue KGE-KTR are S-list while HHJ-PBY are A-list. But either way, from a neutral perspective, no one sane would argue otherwise.

      Secondly, regarding JCW. Yep, it is only his fans who think he had any chance at this year's Baeksangs. And I did not even think of Blue Dragon. That was a pretty good chance for him to at least bag a nomination if he were deserving of it. Has JCW ever won anything significant. Forget the Baeksangs - that is too tall of an ask, but even the network awards have not given him a single Top Excellence award if I remember correctly. Most actors in the same age group as him won a Daesang by now...

      Finally regarding PMY herself, you are hit the bullseye. She is a decent actress. Not Baeksang worthy, but nothing to be ashamed of. On the other hand, her choices have always remained consistently predictable which makes her look like a weak actress with no variety. She also plays all these characters similarly and in that vein, all her female leads feel like they can be swapped out for each other and most wouldn't see the difference. She could probably bring in certain quirks, something new, but she continues to practically repeat herself in all these different settings. I was a fan in her Healer and City Hunter days, but seriously, there's only so many different version of the same thing I see before I roll my eyes and move on.

    • @Kailey b Nah, you’re just slow that you can’t understand your own inability to convey yourself. Imaginary scenarios are in your head, open fangirlie. To unimagined them, try getting out of your fandom bubble lmao. And yea, you couldnt be me. For that you’d need logic. I’ll keep doing me and enjoy watching you bow pathetically out of the convo ;)

      @cahill you’re completely right. Similar characters can feel different with a bit more thought and effort. I think the PD also plays a big role in that more so than the writer. SHK I felt was unwilling to take on more challenging roles until recently but I’m happy to see her take the jump.

      @Dee I would place HHJ in the S tier if we consider her movie career. PBY and IU are probably A. KJW and Suzy are close to it, and it’ll depend on how well their next projects go. On the actors side, I think it’s quite clear cut. As for JCW, he is popular like PMY but he’s very far from being a critically acclaimed actor. That’s why his stans were so triggered when he didn’t get a nomination this year at the Baeksangs. Even they know very well how rare it is that he’s even in slight contention. In the end it was all their fantasy anyway 😂

    • @millie

      Isn't Suzy S list? She's super and has been for a long time. But out of the project's it seems like the other actresses had more than 1 hit and suzy just had Anna , before that she was not really seen as a good actress. I'm probably gonna be wrong on this but I also don't recall any of her projects having double digits or being critically acclaimed (except Anna) but all the actresses you named have. She's opposite to KJW who has more hits both critical and commercial but doesn't have that star power (like han sohee for instance) hence shes not on the radar as much. PMY is she not atleast their level, she's not consistent with hits but very recognisable idk which metric are you looking at it by.

    • @cahill, your point on Song Hye Kyo waited a long time for a good script like The Glory is so spot on. Which actress dont want a good script?? But not everyone gets one. It is better to get what Park Min Young is best for her the wait for the Prefect script. Be it luck or Fate...what is good may turn out not great but one that is average may be a Hit...that able to still work on typecast roles and not be jobless which is normal for actress her age. that is what really matters for her currently.

    • @Silja, I know you didn't direct your question to me, but I think Suzy is not A or S list. Mostly due to her lack of actual critical acclaim/awards or mega hits. Baeksang nomination and Blue Dragon award was a big win but I think she needs to back it up to cement her place and prove its not a one-off. However, when it comes to ratings, she's had a lot of decent ratings hit. Dream High, Gu Family Book, Vagabond, etc have all hit double digits. Depending on how well she does in the new KES drama, it can help cement her place. Plus she is also considering a female centric drama.

      And Millie, agreed on HHJ. She's amazing and someone who is never shy to take on a multitude of roles including being a mother. More than that, she is someone who always brings the numbers and the awards so definitely S-tier when putting her chungmuro resume into play.

    • @Silja I dont think Suzy is even A list right now. I agree with @Dee. Her next drama can bring her there. A list is not about popularity and has never been. Popularity as a metric is basically how much of a Hallyu star one is. A-list is determined by how many critically acclaimed dramas an actress starred in, how many ratings hits they led, how many Baeksang awards they got nominated for and the type of scripts they get offered (not quantity but quality). So many actresses are A-listers but not necessarily Hallyu stars or vice versa.

      PMY is definitely a Hallyu star. I dont think anyone can ever question that and come out looking like they haven’t lost their minds.

    • @Dee and @Millie I agree with all your points except that an S-tier/A-list actor/actress must have critical acclaim. If it was about talent and critical acclaim, someone like Brad Pitt wouldn't be an undeniably S-tier actor and Joaquin Phoenix and Cillian Murphy would've been considered S-tier actors a long time ago. To use Korean examples, no one can deny that Song Hye Kyo is an S-tier actress, but we all know she's not the greatest actress, even tho she definitely improved in The Glory. I think being an A-lister is more about name recognition, as in, can this person get people to the cinema to watch his/her movie just by his/her name alone? Leonardo DiCaprio and Tom Cruise are called the last movie stars because they can get people to watch their movies just by their names alone, regardless of the plot. Among directors, Christopher Nolan is an S-tier director because his name 99.9% guarantees that people will watch a movie. So I'd say Suzy is A-list as she has that name recognition and is a household name in Korea. She could go up the S-tier status though if she delivers a huge hit and gains more critical acclaim for her acting

    • Posting my comment again since I responded to the wrong chain.

      Loving the discussion guys and respectful manner everyone is going about it (thanks @Silja for initiating). I agree with @Millie, @Dee on what makes an A-lister, but I also agree with @Halton that name recognition needs to also be weighed in. And I do not mean that in the sense of popularity overseas. More so the name value, appearance fees and the type of scripts they get. In that sense, I think Suzy could be considered A-list because she has been getting a lot of quality scripts. Same goes for IU who was the first choice in Queen of Tears.

      I think there are some actors / actresses who are obvious S-listers no one other than absolute idiots would argue against. For example Kim Tae-ri, Kim Go-eun, Son Ye-jin, Jeon Ji-hyun, Kim Soo-hyun, Song Joong-ki, Hyun Bin, etc. Then there are the A-listers which is a tad lower than S listers. Some are obviously stamped in on the list like Lee Jong-suk, Park Bo-gum, Park Eun-bin, Park Bo-young and then there are those who are either already there or on the verge like Suzy, IU. Thats where the fun debate comes in play.

    • @gg, @halton Also really enjoying this debate. would be nice if koala wrote a post on the topic of S/A/B list but instead of an interesting discussion, we will likely to get in war territory 😂 Re: Suzy and IU, I dont think I fully agree with you both but I get where the argument is coming from.

      The way I see A-listers is purely from a success perspective. In the case of SHK, she has been on some of the biggest ratings hits the past 3 decades. In the 2000's it was Autumn in my heart and Full house. In the 2010's it was DOTS and in the 2020's its The Glory. She also has several Baeksang nominations, multiple Daesangs, and she gets the best scripts. So she is an A-lister as opinions on someone's acting is just opinion. Only hard data and facts are something that can be proven which she's done continiously throughout her long career. In contrast, Kim Tae-hee is not an A-lister to me. She has several ratings hits, is a household name in Korea, but has no Baeksang nominations to cement which I feel is crucial to being considered A-list. It’s a grey area with some for sure. If one considers KTH as A-list, then Suzy is as well imo as they have very similar impacts and trajectories. I do believe Suzy will surpass KTH as she seems willing to take on challenges a lot more.

  • @Kailey b, after that long spiel downplaying baeksang noms, you end it with PMY getting one 15 years ago proving she’s a critically acclaimed actress 🤣. And it doesn’t matter how many (ie:, fans) think so n so deserves one for their “masterful” performance, there are only 5 spots in each category and it’s the judges’ decision to decides who is deserving.

    • I just mentioned it out incase someone claims shes never had it. But I still don't think it means baeksang should be the only barometer of good acting, JCW and lee dongwook for example haven't had baeksang noms but most agree they're fantastic actors.

    • @kaileyb

      Going this hard for Park Min Young is laughable. Your other faves are JCW, KJW, and PSJ? You have zero taste 🤣🤣

    • @Doe Now you're not even pretending to not be a KJW anti, huh? How is being a fan of KJW, a literal Baeksang Best Actress nominee who's recognized by drama fans as a great actress, mean that the other person has “zero taste”? Lol you stan B-lister Seo Ye Ji who isn't even a critically acclaimed actress and was never nominated for any prestigious best actress awards like Baeksang and who's been exposed for the liar she is. YOU are the one with trash taste 😂 Also, your obsession with dragging KJW is laughable. No one even mentioned her here yet you're so obsessed that you found a way to mention her 😂

      Oh well, KJW is THRIVING while your SYJ will forever be known as a toxic manipulate bish and a certified B-lister, so cry about it 😂

    • @doe and pray tell what's wrong with liking kjw and psj? they're great actors who are recognized by the industry and kdrama fans as such. kjw has a baeksang best actress nom to prove it. how about your seo yeji? only people with sh*t taste who like aggressive and abus*r/sexually haras*er female leads like ko mun yeong are creaming their pants over seo yeji's acting in iontbo lmao. your taste is ew 🤢🤮

    • At least my favourites are not toxic weirdos btw your fav really needs a job soon so you can give this obsession a rest.

    • @ eeww your name is fitting to your comment, what a gross thing to say, I'm not even a SYJ stan (who got your info also has baeksang nom). Also I'm a fan of KSH.

    • @ewwwww and @doeisaclown @kaileyb

      Everything was going really well until

      BINGO you had to mention SYJ in a unrelated post so what is your problem?
      You're actually really insecure and it's obvious as hell. Far out, is your obsession that is so entrenched in you perhaps maybe that is the reason why you just can't shake it? Pity party for you all. SYJ 'Eve' that was made 2 years ago is currently on Netflix do yourselves a favour and go check it out as it could help with calming your nerves.

    • Loving the discussion guys and respectful manner everyone is going about it (thanks @Silja for initiating). I agree with @Millie, @Dee on what makes an A-lister, but I also agree with @Halton that name recognition needs to also be weighed in. And I do not mean that in the sense of popularity overseas. More so the name value, appearance fees and the type of scripts they get. In that sense, I think Suzy could be considered A-list because she has been getting a lot of quality scripts. Same goes for IU who was the first choice in Queen of Tears.

      I think there are some actors/actresses who are obvious S-listers no one other than absolute idiots would argue against. For example Kim Tae-ri, Kim Go-eun, Son Ye-jin, Jeon Ji-hyun, Kim Soo-hyun, Song Joong-ki, Hyun Bin, etc. Then there are the A-listers which is a tad lower than S. Some are obviously stamped in on the list like Lee Jong-suk, Park Bo-gum, Park Eun-bin, Park Bo-young and then there are those who are either already there or on the verge like Suzy, IU. Thats where the fun debate comes in play.

  • @Kailey b, getting overlooked on one, maybe two great performance(s) is a snub, it’s no longer a snub when your entire body of work over a decade+ is not recognized. Not just Baeksang, some examples you mentioned like LDW and JCW have never been nominated for any top acting award in any award body. So the consensus is quite consistent.

    • Exactly right.

      It’s not like she has acted sparingly either. PMY does at least 1 drama every year so if her last and only noms happened in the 2010 era, that’s not a snub or an overlooked situation. That’s a not-worthy-of-being-nominated situation. JCW, LDW are also in the same bucket. I quite love LDW but I won’t go around claiming he’s a great actor lol. He’s gotten so much better from his My Girl days but he ain’t baeksang worthy. Hes just a really popular Hallyu star so he’s always super buzzy.

    • @Macy, 🤣 DITTO. But fangirls have their own illogical logic to justify why their oppar is SO GREAT and Baeksang is wrong. Simply. Wrong. Logic and criteria and experts be damned.

  • Well why are you here commenting f you do tike her duhhh you are not force to like her and what?? Trying too much?? Duhhh

• I have a soft spot for her as i know her since her debut but i couldn't watch some of her dramas lately . I respect her hard working ethic.

  • There are qualities I do admire in actors...and I have to say, not everyone is hardworking...

• At least it’s not a romance for once. Good on her to pick something different.

• Love her the most in Seven Day Queen.

• if this flop like Stealer then what

• See. Kinda expected that in every pmy article, there's always that people who give unnecessary hate lmao

  Be kind everyone.
  Its fine to give opinions but some are just too much.