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Da Mo Yao Chapter 4: Beauty — 49 Comments

  1. Thanks for the chapter Ms. Koala!
    I’ve been refreshing all day ^^

    I actually can’t wait for this drama to premiere. Unfortunately it seems it’ll take a while ><

      • me neither. My guess is that she want the story to reach the king because she want HQB to notice? I can’t wait until she meet HQB again.

        Thanks Koala for all your hard work.

    • Jin Yu’s ulterior motive for this performance is already revealed in this chapter.

      “Her decision to eschew a more famous dance house for ours is a decision made with purposeful forethought and the willingness to take a risk. If she knew my ulterior motive and therefore wants to enter Luo Yu House, what is her motive? Why does she want to meet Princess Pingyang?”

      The above section tells us that Jin Yu is looking to meet Princess Pingyang. Since Li Yan has seen through Jin Yu’s motive and chosen to come, which means Li Yan also has the same motive.

      • Uh oh, Captain Koala, I think I just got more confused. I figured that Jin Yu had basically wanted to bring the dance house to imperial attention, but why does she want to meet Princess Ping Yang specifically? That seems oddly random? Unless she’s hoping to meet HQB through his uncle, General Wei Qing, who is married to Princess Ping Yang. That seems rather convoluted, when there are surely more straightforward ways of running into HQB? Or maybe I’m the one thinking too simply …

        As for Li Yan, I assume that she’s also hoping to attract imperial attention, through the dance house? Since it was through Princess Ping Yang that the current Empress Wei came to the attentions of the emperor, I suppose Li Yan is hoping to pursue a similar route, which, historically, is actually what ends up happening.

      • just a thought… could jin yu wanting to meet princess pingyang got anything to do with her father?

        this intrigue that the characters in damoyao has presented me has me wiki-ing all over about that period of chinese history.. im sure my high school chinese teacher would be so proud- they had to literally force us to take an elective on chinese history in those days and i spent alot of time in that class looking out of the window…

      • The reason why Jin Yu wants to meet Princess Pingyang is revealed in the later chapters. The next one if my memory serves me right.

        The romance plot thread reminds me of BBJX. The girl fall for the gentle guy first (Meng Jiu/8th Prince) and then falls for the guy who is more ba qi (霸气 – don’t know a good english word for this) which in this case is Huo Qu Bing/4th Prince.

      • i should have been more clear. i realised that she wanted to meet Princess Ping Yang. BUT i don’t understand why she wants to meet the princess. i have half-way through reading chapter 5! i have to finish reading it in mandarin before i read your translation! *rushes off to read chapter 5*

  2. Wow, so fast koala! Thank you!

    I am so in love with this heroine now. She’s a quick study and very resilient indeed. Hmmm..will this dance bring our brooding HQB to Luo Yu house? And I don’t know what to make of Li Yan yet. I hope she won’t turn over to the dark side. Getting more and more intrigued with each chapter…

  3. Ah, I can already smell the political intrigue starting! It’s complete irony that Huo Qu Bing loves Jin Yu, yet she is the one responsible for lifting up the fortunes of the woman (Li Yan) who will threaten the position of HQB’s aunt, Empress Wei, and by relation, the rest of the Wei family. I sort of rub my hands in glee.

    I just read through the Wikipedia articles of the older historical figures mentioned in this novel, such as Empress Wei, General Wei Qing (HQB’s uncle, and Empress Wei’s half-brother), Princess Ping Yang, etc., and in some ways, their real life stories are even more thrilling than the fictional story taking place here. I especially find the back stories of Empress Wei and General Wei Qing fascinating – same mother, both illegitimate children (I kind of admire their mother for “getting around”, given how patriarchal Chinese society was/is!). I’m also surprised that, to my knowledge, no one has done a drama or a movie about these people. So, so, so much drama fodder right there, and free for the picking too!

    • Of course there are dramas and movies about the Han Dynasty. The 58-episode drama 汉武大帝 (Emperor Wu of Han) features all the important historical figures of that era.

    • The drama Emperor Wu of Han is a serious real deal. They’ll probably spit blood to read Tong Hua’s crazy version of Han history in DMY.

      There is also the drama 大汉天子 (Da Han Tian Zhi or Heavenly Son of the Han Empire) starring Huang Xiaoming as Lie Che during his teenage years until he becomes Emperor Wu.

      There are tons of dramas/movies about the Han dynasty. Not recently, which has seen a surge of Three Kingdoms and/or Qing dynasty stories.

      I personally love the Song dynasty tales the most. Tang is too wimpy and slightly sleazy for me.

      • Captain Koala, what Song dynasty tales do you like? I know the story of the Yang family is really famous. Then there’s the fictional Condor Heroes stories by Jinyong, set during the fall of the Song dynasty. Come to think of it, the most famous Song-era stories that I know, historical or fictional, are all set during the decline of Song and lament the corrupt officials who sped it along. I admit, that doesn’t exactly endear me to the Song dynasty as a whole.

        I’m more biased towards the Tang dynasty primarily because of Wu Zetian. Otherwise, I’m not a fan of Tang-era women’s clothing, which reminds me of Korean hanboks, in that they completely hide a women’s curves below her chest.

    • Hi, Captain Koala and Sherry, and thank you very much for the drama recommendations! I had actually meant that I’m surprised that no one’s done a drama or movie specifically about the Wei’s (again, as far as I know). I just find their rise (and fall) very interesting, and again, so much fodder that you don’t even need to make up fictional drama!

      As much of a sleazeball as Yu Zheng is, it would be interesting to see his take on Empress Wei’s rise and fall, and her half-brother General Wei Qing and how he ended up married to Princess Ping Yang, etc. Outside of him, I can’t really think of any relatively famous Chinese director/producer who would be willing to do a story on the “lesser” figures of history. Most dramas that I’ve seen about the Han, Qing, and other dynasties tend to be expansive dramatic pieces, where “the whole world is the stage” and the principal figures are the emperors and his more famous courtiers.

      I don’t like YZ’s hardball tactics, but I do grudgingly appreciate his willingness to do “insular” and women-centric stories, where we can see what makes these figures “tick” on a less “grand” level. And as much as the women in his drama are super scheming bitches, or they’re super moping victims, at least he does make dramas that prominently focus on women and give us an inside view on how their backgrounds and certain events ended up shaping their futures and thoughts and actions.

      On the other hand, I do dislike how Yu Zheng has complete disregard for historical fact, since I admit to being something of a historical purist myself. In fact, I somewhat lament that DMY, based on what I’ve heard other people say, is less strictly historically accurate than Bu Bu Jing Xin was. Actually, one of my (very minor) pet peeves with BBJX was that Tong Hua made it seem like it was a concrete fact that Yong Zheng had usurped the throne, whereas historically, we don’t actually know the truth one way or the other. I think I would have preferred that she made it more hazy.

      Okay, enough of my rambling! Although … We did say that this was a book discussion, right? 😉

      • Hi V, oh yes, I am so glad that I’m not the only person who finds Yu Zheng’s dramas sometimes worth watching. If some episodes get too cheesy and cliche, I just wince my way through them or fast forward entirely, but his dramas get me excited and happy and sad and angry at exactly the right times.

        I’ve with Koala on preferring Song Dynasty stories to Tang Dynasty ones. V, have you read/seen Jin Yong’s Demi-Gods and Semi-Devils? It’s set earlier in the Song Dynasty, several generations before the beginning of LOCH. I’m currently translating it solo (and verrrrry slowly) on spcnet.tv. One of its three protagonists, Xiao Feng, is my favorite hero in the wuxia universe. Definitely worth giving it a shot!

      • Oops, I always make typos! >.<

        Also, I forgot to mention that Wei Zifu is one of my favorite empresses in Chinese history. And I really like Princess Pingyang of the Tang Dynasty (not the princess in this era). So many fascinating and capable women for us to marvel at!

        I've been plowing ahead on DMY on my own now, and I'm slowly starting to warm up to HQB. His moments with Jin Yu are really quite humorous, especially the handkerchief and drooling scene. However, DMY as a whole seems a whole lot more unrealistic to me than BBJX (minus the time-traveling). Especially the whole wolf pack thing. Oh well, I'll try to look past its faults. 🙂

      • Hi, Sherry, and so nice to have someone else join in my long, rambling “discussions”! Now I feel less guilty for taking up space on the Playground! 😉

        Yes, I have watched Tian Long Ba Bu. (The one with Jimmy Lin – don’t know how closely that version sticks to the book, since I must admit to not having read any of Jinyong’s books, having been scared off the first time around by all of the dense wuxia-centric terms.) On a rather random aside, for the longest time I thought Crystal Liu Yi Fei was the prettiest in that drama (TLBB/DGSD) compared with her later projects, such as Return of the Condor Heroes. I don’t know how they did it, but the make-up artists managed to make her look super mature and refined in that drama (TLBB/DGSD), even though she was quite young when she filmed the series. It’s only been recently that I’ve thought LYF has surpassed her beauty in TLBB/DGSD, although I may be the only one to think so. Sadly, I can’t really say the same for her acting …

        About BBJX, in spite of the time-traveling aspect, I too feel that it was a very, very realistic story, in that the characters felt completely real to me and their actions and thoughts made utter sense given their well-established personalities. I felt that the time-traveling aspect was only used as a device to frame a much larger story about the interactions of super-complex characters and a girl/woman who couldn’t let go. The time-traveling wasn’t the “means to an end” that we see in 99% of all other time-traveling stories, where the heroine travels back in time basically just to prove how superior she is to the people of whatever time period she’s happened to land in. If anything, the time-traveling was a weight that the heroine couldn’t cast off, as opposed to being an empowering experience.

      • Haha, I’m on the verge of falling asleep, so I’ll be quick. Ah, I thought Liu Yifei was very pretty in DGSD, especially during her first appearance. However, her character was just an empty shell. I loved her a lot in ROCH (maybe it was her dubbed voice that I loved?). Anyway, the wuxia terminology is just so much fun, combining real martial arts schools with Jin Yong’s imagination, and brings in such a varied assortment of characters that I never get bored.

        Yes, that’s exactly how I felt about BBJX as well! Such a serious, well-paced, hauntingly beautiful story. At first I was uncertain about how well LSS would play Ruoxi, since I often cringed at her dull, wooden acting from way back when, but she really did her justice. Heavens, I was sometimes fangirling over her more than the princes. xD However, the more of DMY I read, the more I think Jin Yu doesn’t really suit LSS, but maybe she can astound us once again if she gets cast into this 180-degree turnaround role.

    • Schemes of a Beauty had Princess Ping Yang, Empress Dou (the grandmother of Emperor Wu, the current emperor in DMY), Empress Wang Zhi (mother of Wu) Empress Wei Zifu (for like the last 5 seconds of the series, LOL. You can just go to viki and watch the last minute of the drama to catch her), and Emperor Wu.

      • Hi, Lazy Goose! He he, I actually did watch or rather skimmed Schemes of a Beauty. The younger generations, after Empress Dou’s generation that is, really annoyed me in that drama. And the future Empress Wei in that drama, in her like 5 seconds of screentime, looked kind of cunning, when historically she was somewhat reluctant to become the Emperor’s woman.

        Anyway, like I said, I tend to not trust Yu Zheng’s portrayals of historical figures; they’re frequently a complete turnaround from their historical characterizations. (Although I did like Lu Zhi in Schemes of a Beauty. As much as she practiced nepotism, you have to give her due credit for keeping her entire clan in line, as well as keeping the Han dynasty stable during its first transition from one emperor to the next.) On the other hand, there aren’t many other directors/producers of similar fame that do the kind of stories that he’s known for. In fact, I remember being rather surprised when Tangren came out with “Clothing the World”, it just seemed so different from the usual fare that they do.

  4. Thanks for the setup chapter. You are wonderful!

    I hope Jin Yu gets her wish to see Xiao Huo. I see the “Flower Moon Passion” as representative of her blossoming emotions for him brought on by the night when they first met….<3<3<3

  5. Thank you for getting these out. I can’t tell you how much I love your site and appreciate the time and hard work you put into your recaps and translations.

  6. tx koala love the story awaiting eagerly for chap 5 for me I prefer reading the book than watching it in movies or dramas if only i can read chinese but ur here instead to do the honors my heartfelt gratitude i can enjoy this story thru you ur awesome

  7. When I saw that you had two chapters up, I almost cried (of happiness, of course!)!!! One reason why I love Tonghua is her use of history and how manipulates the characters to fit her story. Just as in BBJX, I’m excited about how she is going to unfold her version of real historical moments.
    In chapter 3, the part that got me was when she came “home” to Jiu Ye, who was reading and waiting up for her. Jiu Ye is just too sweet and kind… just my type of guy. There’s not much about Huo Qu Bing, so I’m on currently aboard on the Jiu Ye ship. However, since you placed Huo Qu Bing on such a high regard, I’m so curious as to how he’s gonna show up again in Jin Yu’s life and turn me upside down. lol. I know for sure, I’m easy to persuade. LOL.
    Anyway, THANKS SO MUCH for the quick translation. I can’t wait for the next one(s). Lol. (no pressure, take your time!) 😀

  8. Interesting! So Jin Yu wants to meet the Princess Pinyang, why exactly?

    The politics begins… Also, getting close to Li Yan already feels like a mistake! I hope our heroine maintains hers intelligence, tenacity and wit and dealing with this move of hers.

    More importantly, I missed HQB today :(, Can’t wait to read more on him.. the eventual reunion between Jin Yu & HQB is going to be EPIC! I hope it’s really soon.

    Thank again Ms. Koala!

  9. OMG, this just gets better and better, I think the first time around, I underestimated how much the political uprising in her childhood affected her. Thinking back on it, the thing that JY avoids the most is succession battle, which… oh, what can I say? she brought it upon herself.

  10. Thanks so much for your translation… I have just finished the book online.. and I am not going to lie.. i am torn between the 2 men…. i love them both….. but i think i might be one of the few people love Jiu Ye at the end not matter how awesome HQB is… i am really curious who will be cast for the role of jiu Ye…

    i can’t wait for more chapter translation… thanks!

  11. So….an intense-ish experience with Jiu Ye occurs…. Right now I’m kinda shipping both men –like I did with 4th prince & 8th prince in BBJX. I’m leaning toward HQB for the OTP, but four chapters in, this feels like a very plausable triangle where either man could be a good match. Since I don’t know what’s to come in the chapters ahead, I venture to say that right now neither HQB or Jiu Ye is writtren to be so perfect & pristine or so evil & horrid in nature that readers automatically know which side to pick. INTERESTING…..

    –Thanks, Koala!

    Hmm…I like the fact that we’re not “supposed to” root for one man over the other. I’m sure most of us will eventually pick a ship (if we haven’t already!), but right now the playing field is level.

  12. Me too…I couldn’t wait and decide to read them online….I’m savoring it slowly (actually it’s more because I’m a slow reader) so I’m only at Chapter 10.LOL. I haven’t read a chinese novel for years…
    TQ for the recommendation.
    And I always come back for your english translations just to cross check if I missed anything and participate in the book discussion!

  13. on a side-note.. after reading a few chapters ahead of koala unnie’s translations in the original chinese.. i’m somehow having problems envisioning liu shi shi as the lead- she just seems so… reserved.. and does not have that “xiao sa” air of the ‘desert flower’ that jin yu is… hu ge would be totally yummy as huo qu bing ( totally totally fell in love with his character in chinese paladin and as guo jing in loch) but i’m wondering if he has that gravitas to pull off that young general role… i can however totally imagine yuan hong as huo qu bing (not helped by the fact that i love 13th prince to bits) cos he has that ability to be naughty-playful and yet totally nail the arrogance that comes with the status. hu ge is just…. mr nice guy in my books at this point, so nice that you’re right when you said earlier that if he nails this, it could totally be his career- making role….. and as to whoever acts as jiuye…. somehow feels like he’s getting the short end of the exposition stick.

  14. Thank you, Ms. Koala for sharing another beautiful translation. I’m so psyched with our main heroine’s craftiness. I admit I was quite fearful of her character being completely swallowed up by the great Chang An, but I should have known that she would come out triumphant, though the transition from the wild desert to the civilized city was a bit jarring for. I was expecting her character to suffer a lot more misfortuned before she found her footing, but I suppose all things happen for a reason. Jiu Ye is such a sad, sad character 🙁 And I’m excited to read more on this blossiming sisterhood between JY and LY. Thanks again! 😀

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