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Yun Zhong Ge Chapter 3: Scheme Within A Scheme — 40 Comments

  1. Whoo hooo! I’m the first! Thank you! Can’t wait to find out what happens in this chapter! I’m going crazy trying to keep track of the two generations of protagonists! Did I tell you how great you are?

  2. I haven’t read the whole chapter yet but I am posting this as I have read up on the Han dynasty and feel sad about what’s going to happen to LGG already. History can’t be changed but I ‘m glad TH created YG for LGG. 🙁

  3. After reading your initial post on YZG, I finally sat down and read the whole book in about 2 days. And I have to agree with you Koala, I sobbed like a little baby reading the final volume. I don’t know Tong Hua can do this to her readers but every sentence just sliced my heart. I can’t say it’s my favorite book because of the circumstances but if I had to compare DMY and YZG, I think YZG is definitely Tong Hua’s best novel.

    Words fail me on how to even describe this novel. It definitely kept me on my toes when I was reading the first two volumes and then I was devastated reading the final. I hated the empty and bitter feeling it left with. It left such a bitter taste in my mouth. I don’t think I could ever watch this play out on screen. The heartbreak would be unbearable. I don’t know if I can reread this novel but it was definitely a dam good read.

    • I actually felt the same way, but re-reading it really helps me come to terms with how amazing this story is, and once the initial shock wears off, it becomes really meaningful and, dare I say it, bittersweet.

      • I don’t know if I can re-read this story in the near future. I’m still in a somewhat heart broken depression over the fates of the OTP and Meng Jue. Everything literally broke my heart in this book. This is the first time that I have ever felt this way over a novel. Like you said it was bittersweet. Regardless of what happened, the upside to this was that they had time with their loved ones.

        However, I had a hard time trying to sympathize with the main antagonist in this story. I felt such bitter hatred towards said person. One the one hand I understood it but I wonder if said person realized what was lost towards the end. My chinese reading skills are somewhat limited didn’t know what the ending really entailed. I was somewhat confused.

        It’s hard trying not to put major spoilers in this post! On a happy note, I ABSOLUTELY LOVE THE THIRD BROTHER!

  4. You were right. YZG is so much more complicated than DMY… but sooo good! While in DMY I’m more invested in the romance, in YZG the whole story is interesting, with its many interesting side characters and complicated background.

    Thanks for translating!!

    • Yup, the two novels are sooooo different in structure and scope. YZG is so much broader and deeper that many of the characters and what they went through live on even after I’m done reading.

  5. Waaahh ! Thank you , Koala san !
    So , it was Meng Jue who set up Liu Bing Yi ? Didn’t expect that ! And Yun ge thinks she owed Meng jue a big favor by helping her with Liu Bing Yi ‘s case …This is getting interesting ! this is a really good novel …
    thanks for the hardwork , Koala san ! God bless ^^

  6. Thanks again ms koala for new chapter. Like others who commented before me,i begin to write down the character from YZG since you mention that the character more complex than DMY. It’s like footnote,but really help me to understand about the story especially about the Han (i do some research). So from now,whenever i read your translation i’m immediately grab my note. It’s a long journey but i’m sure i’ll enjoy it no matter what happen in the end.

  7. Wow. Did I know that or didn’t I know that but i was shock at MJ confession. Ahh such an intelligence to use everything to his advantage. So bad but so good. I really hope that it will not hurt YG but it will right ?

    And HG was the same guard she met while guarding the prince right ? Then how can the prince be in disguise as the hooligan leader ? It’s not right its his cousin as mentioned ?

    It was confusing but can’t wait to see it unfold.

    Thanks so much !

    • No the princes guard was general zhao. He was HQB’s right hand man and a good friend to YG’s parents. He knew who she was but she had no clue about who he was, just that he knew her parents.

    • You should probabaly go back and read the intro to YGZ, Ling Gege is the emperor and is Liu Che’s and consort Zhao’s son. Li Bing Yi is Liu Che’s and Emperess Wei’s grandchild (son of the former crown prince who died before getting the throne)

      • Just a tiny correction. Liu Bing Yi (Liu Xun) is the great-grandson of Empress Wei. His father was the son of the former crown prince.

        So technically……Ling gege is Liu Bing Yi’s grand-uncle. Even thinking about it makes me chuckle. Oh China, you and your large family procreation problems.

  8. aww, yun ge doesnt even know that her dad is from
    chang an, and used to be someone of status and very powerful. i guess when hqb and yu er let go of that part of their lives, they really let go. i wonder if the yun ge’s two brothers know anything about their parents’ past?
    im actually happy to be able to see the glimpses of hqb and yu er’s life after dmy 🙂
    i’ve kinda always expected them to be like those protective parents, so when koala said they were absentee parents, i was actually very surprised!
    if anyone care to spoil me, will people eventually know whose daughter yun ge is? and will third brother get his own love story? he seems to be even more arrogant than his daddy! id love to see things from his perspective!

  9. Thank you for providing the English translation. I finished reading the novel in Chinese last night after much effort and tears since I’ve only learned Chinese for about 5 years. Re-reading this story in English, especially the beginning part, brought back warm memories, as though I had experienced all of this with them. I am still in tears just re-reading this and thinking of what happened later. Yun Zhong Ge, why you tortured me like this???

  10. I confuse with so many character, but it’s interesting. Cant wait for part II, I want to know more about LGG. Ʈĥâňƙ Ÿ☺ů Koala

  11. Dear Koala, thank you for translating the novel. It’s a blessing for me who don’t speak Mandarin.

    Hope you continue translating it 🙂

  12. I’m on the edge of my seat waiting for the outcome of LGL’s case! I didn’t realize MJ knew LGL’s real identity. That’s interesting……. I wonder what he has planned???

    • MJ didn’t know who Liu Bing Yi was in advance. He just found out as well. Thanks to Yun Ge. The fates want all of these kids to collide is all I have to say.

  13. I managed to read YZG without brawling and I wanted to tell others like me, who fear a fiction-induced depression, that it is possible to keep your emotional distance (spoilers are a great help here) and enjoy the book.

    Things I like about the book: Mengjue, Third Brother and the mystery of the emperor. Things I dislike: overly long descriptives and an the harem of side characters. I disagree with the ending of Yun Ge and Mengjue in the book and will be spinning my own versions of their ending in my head.

    p/s: Do you think Tong Hua is jilted by a Meng guy in real life? She is sure mean to them in her books.

    • I knew how YZG ended before I started reading, the spoilers are all over C-sphere, mostly because the Jades are so furious and ragey about it. And the other side is still crying copious tears.

      I think knowing how it all ends helps when reading it as well. Then you don’t feel like you’re punched in the gut every chapter. Just so you know, TH has said this ending of YZG she wrote because she got soft-hearted and backed down from her original ending, i.e. she had something worse in mind. I cannot get my head around that.

      • Addendum – Book 3 is a must read cos the most impt developments happened in 3.

        Thanks for reminding that TH planned another ending – I did felt that Mengjue’s ending was a bit flat n it makes sense if he was inteded to go through more trials – I dunno like being forced to kill his Jans n Febs, or disfigure himself, or witness his beloved being raped or something (like something in Return of the Condor Heros).

        Why did you think the last chapter closed with Huo Cheng Jun? Can’t figure that out.
        What is your take on why the last chapter ended with Huo Cheng Jun? I can’t figure it out.

      • The last chapter is not Huo Cheng Jun. Her chapter was an epilogue. And you also missed another epilogue. The final epilogue to close out the entire novel is in fact Shang Guan Xiao Mei’s chapter called “One person’s forever and always.”

  14. YZG is definitely a complicated story. Each time Koala post a new chapter, I was able to skim through as if my mind block such a labyrinth of information. I need to read twice to understand the story.

    Back to this chapter, have we just seen a glimpse of LGG in the young man who stared at YG? N seeing how well connected MJ is, I couldn’t believe my first reaction that JY has fallen from his fortune, if that’s the case why MJ was a beggar in the first chapter?

  15. Is Huo Guang related to Yun Ge? Is he her uncle or half-uncle? If so, then his daughter (forgot her name already), is the one that Meng Jue considered to marry, which breaks off their relationship and she runs into Ling gege. So that girl should be her cousin, right?

    So many characters, so many names to remember 😛 I don’t know Chinese, so getting to familiarize myself with all these character’s names and keeping track of them in the story takes a little getting used to, or many I’m just slow. lol! 😛

  16. I feel like YG and her mom, YE should be switched around betwen DMY and YZG. YG fit much more to the more romance novel of DMY, because she doesn’t seem to have her mother’s combat intelligence. YE should be in YZG because of her go getter personality and her intelligence. From the get go, I like YE’s personality much more than her daughter’s personality.

    • You have to consider how different YE and YG grew up. I agree that at the very basic level that there is a different core personality in all of us. But YE grew up with wolves, experienced the death of her beloved father by 12, lived six years as a fugitive in Xi Yu and read war manuals growing up. I think that kind of life would toughen anybody who survived it, being combatant was her childhood.

      I think that Yun Ge being the only daughter in a family full of boys is used to being spoiled. Not spoil in the sense that she is a rich spoil brat but very much an innocent 16 year old girl who grew up in a family that adored her. She never really faced any hardship in life and never really had a need to combat/want for anything. Of course she does not develop a combatant personality like her mother.

      To be honest, I think it is great that Yun Ge is the way she is. I’m prepared for her to get more annoying and depressing as the politics of Changan enclosed around her because Yun Ge is just a normal bright cheerful girl. I kind of like that about her. I think in wuxia we are so used to have either a very strong female heroine or a stupid and weak one. So far, I see Yun Ge as neither because she is in a political charge book like YZG because she sort of has a right to be distressed as any normal person would. But if she was in DMY, I would be annoyed of her as hell. The mushy romance coupled with her character would be an reiteration of every annoying Kdrama bumbling clumsy heroine.

      thanks koala for translating btw.

      • I agree with your assessment. As I was reading the novel, I actually find myself adoring YG as much as I loved YE. I could see how the naive and idealistic girl can become annoying. For me, any girl that is constantly bubbly will grate on my nerves in any drama or novel. For some reason, I have a soft spot for YG and even more so from what she gains and loses in the novel.

        It’s heart-breaking to see her bubbly-idealistic nature slowly disappear as she grows up throughout her journey in YZG.

  17. Whoa!
    What I learned from this chapter…Li Gan was killed by HQB, Yun Ge don’t know martial arts & Meng ju is plotting something.
    What I wanna know is who was the guy with the girl, who was the guy looking @ the painting and what happened to Li yan’s?
    Can’t wait to find out! It’s sure is interesting novel.

    • Likely Li Yan got her comeuppance! Don’t know what happens later in DMY, but the way she plots against Yu Er gets me so mad!

  18. wow… thanks for this chapter. 🙂

    I haven’t read this book or read anything online other then here on ms koala’s site–yzg has a sad ending right? (sigh) They all died huh? I hate sad ending… but hey, sometimes it’s the journal that is the most meaningful…even if it’s just a few happy moments. However, I still hate sad ending!!! LOL

  19. Hi I actually bought the book and is currently in book 3. There is 6 books for yun zhong ge. I practically harmed myself because the book I bought was in traditional Chinese and I have been learning simplified Chinese for all my life. It was quite tough reading it at first but got better when I was in book 2.

    Can u pls do the character introductions? I’m quite confused why meng Jue doesn’t really like the emperor. I rmb reading a paragraph where it says that his father poisoned his son by making him mute so he doesn’t reveal secrets. Can I know who is the little boy and the father? Quite confused!

    Ya and I agree with u that yun ge could had avoided all the shit if she asked Liu bing Yi if he was her Ling gege.

  20. Interesting read. I find this book to be richer than DMY and I love the fact that almost all the characters are grey.

    I don’t know if I like Meng Jue right now but I find him intriguing.

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