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K-actress Lee Shi Young Reveals Pregnancy with Second Child Using Frozen Embryos After Divorce without Ex-Husband Consent — 9 Comments

  1. So many ethical implications for this kind of scenario. I feel like this is the kind of question that my law professor would have put in on the final exam as a policy question.

    • This is probably an unpopular opinion (and I hope I can articulate my thoughts properly and lovingly) but the bigger problem for me is the IVF—it allowed human life to be created outside of the womb.

      The embryo IS life. This is their very very tiny baby already—“just” frozen and outside its mother. Discarding him/her after a determined “non-viability” date, at its core, is killing.

      So it is beyond the matter of consent for me—the consent was given the day they agreed in the conception (egg + sperm, albeit outside of the womb). And I am glad the baby is now wanted, at least.

      • No, scientifically speaking, an embryo is not a baby. It’s a cluster of cells at a very early stage of development. I really wish people wouldn’t rely solely on personal beliefs or religious doctrine when making claims about biology, especially when those beliefs influence public policy and healthcare.

        It’s dangerous when opinions about “life” override science. we’ve already seen real-world consequences, like women being denied necessary medical care in places with strict, belief-based laws. These laws are often rooted in outdated or inaccurate ideas about reproduction, and they can cost lives.

        We should prioritize evidence-based understanding, especially when it comes to issues as serious as reproductive rights and medical ethics.

      • Actually, my masters was in law and medical ethics and snail articulated a brilliant point.

        eJc is incorrectly conflating science, and her own personal beliefs and politics, to be the ethical and only view. Scientifically Snails is correct, that life does begin at conception, where life becomes viable outside a body, or legally is irrelevant. It is not a cluster of cells, anymore than you are just a cluster of cells. An embryo is the start of a continuum that produces life, and Snails point, embraces that biological fact, and is a perfectly valid viewpoint to hold.

        Law, is a reflection of societal ethics – e.g are we a society that values the rights of an unborn child over a mother’s autonomy, or vice versa – lawmakers and voters must make a choice.

        The fact that eJc uses such emotive language in her answer like ‘outdated/ inaccurate/religious-doctrine’ and empty phrases like ‘evidence-based’, merely shows that she has beliefs that run contrary to Snails views and is trying to frame the belief in the embryo as a human as a solely religious view. This argument just doesn’t make philosophically. There is no loss of humanity in between you as a fetus, and you as an adult. The argument must be framed not as killing an embryo, and by an extension a foetus, is fine because it’s not human, but as a contest between the rights of two people (an unborn child vs a mother), as almost all ethical questions are.

        EJc’s views are valid, but they are articulated rudely.

  2. How insane! I wonder in which country she did the procedure. This would be illegal where I live in Europe. Both party’s consent would be needed before implantation.

  3. In Europe it is illegal. But I don’t know about local laws of whatever country where she did this.

    Absolutely immoral though. That poor kid will find out at some point, yikes.

  4. ughh diturbing. I guess with enough money you can change decisions of those clinics.. good luck to the baby and ex husband.

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