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Lost You Forever Chapter 18: Green Plum Collects Longing — 131 Comments

  1. Thank you so much! I’ve been stalking your site constantly. Please pace yourself Ms K and don’t burn out. We really appreciate your hard work in bringing this novel to us.

  2. Thanks for the translation… and I am glad that LX is your favorite cos he is mine as well… when u mentioned that Jing is dull.. i have to agree… but his devotion and willingness to give up everything to be with XY… it’s so charming and lovely… and he probably most situation for XY. All 3 men love XY in their own way… but to me… LX… being a big demon… it’s most fasinating to me from the way he loves or choose to love XY… he has my heart.

    Thanks again for translating a wondering chapter from Book 2.. can’t wait for more.

  3. Thank you Ms. OcKoala for another wonderful chapter.

    I do not understand this girl Ying Yang. Why would she choose to stay with Jing if she doesn’t like him. And why would she stay with his grandmother when he disappeared before wedding! Really suspicious! Poor Jing.

    There are few occasion I could not comprehend. Firstly, i was under impression that she wore black dress on her welcoming ceremony. Secondly, I did not get the betrayal part.

    Perhaps I need to get back previous chapters and read again.

    • Tu Shan Jing is heir to one of the richness and most powerful clans in Middle Plains! I think I can see some of her motivations…. 🙁 Poor Jing.

    • She wore white with red accents because the royal family wears white. She was supposed to eear white with green accents. Her dad keeps her from red because she looks so much like Chi You in red.

      What betrayl part?

    • Ying Yang is staying with Jing because of the prestige that comes with the TS clan and the money too. You see how she feels inferior to Xing Yue because of her lineage. The grandma is the power behind Jing’s family so she’s trying to earn points that way. She also likes Hou who is macho and not incacacitated and wants to marry him but he needs to be the heir first.

    • Thank you so much guys for sharing your opinion.

      I start to understand how Yi Yang could be obsessed about power. She saw Hou first when he represented Tu Shan clan. She was probably thinking that Her future fiancée came with the whole package: handsome, wealthy, and influential. And Her hope was dashed seeing Jing’s crippled leg.

      But come on girl, Jing is still handsome, wealthy, and influential. It is an insult to see her scorned over his leg. Must she have everything when she is already a beautiful girl with great talent? I could understand if she is upset over Jing’s heart being taken by other women when she is already sacrificed her future waiting for his return.

      Darn, she was probably calculated back then, when Jing disappeared, perhaps she was thinking that being close to grandma, eventually she would be marry off to Hou. Now I even doubt her sincerity when she commented about living in peace while drinking wine in ZX restaurant before XY’s ceremony.

      Lol I felt such rage about her behaviour when Jing was nothing but being cordial and considerate with her feeling.

      On another note, I did not get the personal maid’s betrayal comment. Did Jing ever discuss this in previous chapter?

  4. Thanks Ms. K for another amazing chapter. I feel a bit nervous just thinking about the Mu family guy staring sharply at XY having similiarities with Qi Yo when the color of her robe changed to red. Would this be a hint that in the coming chapters she would discover that Qi Yo is her real father and not the Grand Emperor?

    • I really hope that the Grand Emperor knows it, but because he loved her mother so much (see how he married someone who resembled her mother), the love extended to Xiao Yao as well. The poor girl needs some genuine loving (beyond the blood ties, but because she is her),

    • i think this is not a spoiler, captain says we can write anything about the once promised book. while waiting for the LYF chapters , i stumble on OP stories, just snippets of trans. it says there, Qi yo loves to wear red robes. and when ah heng was sacrifice in the human altar, Qi yo thought she died and thus kill all the human tribe responsible for her death by growing lots and lots of vegetation covering the entire village. So i think seeing xiao yao in red reminds them of Qi yo and thus loathe her. for this reason i hold xiang liu responsible if there’s any harm that will happen to xiayao. coz if he didnt play with her gown colors ( which obviously xy didnt like it the least) then no one would shriek like that girl.

      • I think it’s unfair to put the blame on Xiang Liu. Atm we don’t even know if he knows she’s Qi Yo’s daughter. Without wearing red her father and grandfather could tell she resembled Qi Yo. Plus it was just for entertainment it’s not like he did it to harm her intentionally. Feng Long wanted him to change her dress color into red, should he be held accountable too then?

  5. From the beginning I already chose Jing for Xiao Yao and Xiang Liu for me.

    NOBODY CAN LIKE HIM! HE’S MINE!
    (jk. I can share him. Ya’ll can be his concubine while I’ll be his empress. We’ll build our kingdom 😀 )

    • I think Xiang Liu is a one-woman kinda demon guy. I doubt he’ll take a harem.

      I like to think that even his winged ride and Xiao Yao’s winged ride is meant to be in the love-hate sorta way. There is this adorable fanfiction snippet of them that makes me think that no matter how the novel ends with which ship, at least fat adorable innocent Yuan Yuan and surly impatient Furball get together, LOL.

      毛球几天来心情焦急,每天就在小夭寝殿外来来去去,对圆圆越看越厌,在毛球眼里,圆圆这样的肥鸟居然还能当神族的坐骑,简直滑稽,看起来就是一顿美味!但圆圆的主人是小夭,毛球又不敢太过挑衅,克制着每次见到圆圆都想开动大餐的欲念,顶多上去啄两下,拍打一顿,但圆圆长年在五神山上生活寂寞又缺乏玩伴,把毛球苦苦抑制的不爽当作了小伙伴们友谊的嬉戏,于是经常上演一个退,一个追的局面,毛球叫天不应,叫地不灵,又等着小夭带他去见主人不敢彻底甩开圆圆离开,痛苦不堪。烈阳来送小夭,看到这一幕都不禁感叹,同为琅鸟,圆圆真是天真无邪的令人发指。

      Furball was so anxious these past few days, and every day he would saunter back and forth outside Xiao Yao’s chamber. The more he saw of Yuan Yuan the more he disliked her. In Furball’s eyes, how such a fat bird like Yuan Yuan could actually be the winged ride of a Goddess was such as a ridiculously amusing thing. She looked more like a plump delicious meal! But Yuan Yuan’s master was Xiao Yao so Furball had to control his itch to be mean to her, and each time he saw Yuan Yuan he had to tamp down his urge to make a meal out of her. At most he ran up to peck her twice and slap her around a few times with his wing. But Yuan Yuan grew up all alone on Five Gods Mountain and had no playmates and was so lonely, so she saw Furball’s annoyance as a form of playing between friends so she played right back. So the two of them would constantly put on a show of one chasing, the other running away. Furball felt like he called to the Heavens and the Heavens wouldn’t answer, and he called down to the Earth and the Earth wouldn’t answer. And he had to wait for Xiao Yao to bring him to see his master so he couldn’t just kick Yuan Yuan to the side and leave forever, so he was totally living in agony. Lie Yang came to send Xiao Yao off and saw this scene and sighed, Yuan Yuan was a sparrow demon like him, but Yuan Yuan was so innocent and playful she made one’s hair stand on its roots with the impossibility of dealing with her.

      * LOL, I can imagine how Furball literally has to deal with Yuan Yuan aegyoing him until he capitulates and plays with her back. But even Furball is no match for Qi Yo’s winged ride the nine-skies eagle demon. Actually, if Xiang Liu and Furball ever met daddy Qi Yo and his winged ride the freaking lunatic wild thing Xiao Yao (pronounced differently than our leading lady Xiao Yao), then the suitor to be would definitely lose some of his cool in the face of an even more imposing powerful fatherly presence.

      • defenitely one-woman kinda guy Xiang Liu is, just like the godly beast Chi You. 🙂 That’s what we call ’em 死心眼, I think it was also described in Once Promised about such demon’s character.

      • @ockoala I know that part of him that’s why I made myself his empress and others as concubines in names only *runs from raging fangirls* 😀

        Awe, Furball and Yuan Yuan are so cute! But I don’t think Yuan Yuan would try to get close to Furball. She might be lonely, but there are still people around to, although not play, takes care of her(Does the Emperor plays with her? Zhuan Xu? heh..)

      • I agree! Qi Yo has the coolest ride ever! I thought of Carefree (so as not to confuse his Xiao Yao with the name our leading lady) sometimes when I was reading LYF. Furball somehow reminded me of him but none of the rides in both books could match his majesty, speed and velour. When I read about Jing’s ride, it would remind me of Shao Hao’s ride. Could be because both are cranes but I just felt a similarity. Still, Carefree is the best!!

  6. I actually visited your webby a few times today hoping to see a new chapter of 长相思 😛 thank you so much for the hard work in translating the book! You are so fast and accurate! I’ve read all three books in Chinese but rereading it through your translations allow me to better appreciate some of the nuances of the story! It took me a few reads of the novel before I finally came to appreciate all 3 male leads. After my 1st read, I was entirely on team XL. He’s such a strong character with never bending loyalty to Gong Gong and selflessly sacrificing to XY’s happiness.

  7. Is it just in this series or does Tong Hua make her secondary female characters petty, vain, and plain stupid? Over all, the male characters are rational actors but the secondary female characters are immature.

    • Haha to be honest I think it’s one of her series where the secondary female characters seem more petty, immature and inconsequential (in that they don’t leave a deep impression on me). I think in her other series she seems to have better fleshing out of the secondary characters – like in Once Promised there is the awesome Lei Zu, Chang Pu (Zhuan Xu’s mum) and the Shen Nong princess, and in Bu Bu Jing Xin there is Ming Hui and Yu Tan, so yes I do think it’s just this series. But at least in exchange the male characters are really awesome?

    • I like Ah Nian as well here. But compared to TH’s other novels, LSF is definitely lacking in other strong female leads. I found Once Promised probably the richest book in strong female characters aside from the female lead.

  8. I SHIP ZHUAN XU!!!

    Okay, I just had to get that off my chest and out there. 🙂

    To be honest, I was actually kind of indifferent/neutral towards ZX, until I read Volume 3. I really think Volume 3 is ZX’s book; his love for XY is so repressed, that when it spills out, it’s explosive. Too bad he never even had a chance, unlike Jing or Xiang Liu. Sigh.

    I also read a really great theory about how the Chinese title 长相思/”Eternally Thinking of You” might be a reference to ZX’s feelings, which would make ZX the “true” male lead of Lost You Forever. I’m not sure, but I think I also read that Tong Hua said somewhere that in her opinion, ZX is the male lead of LYF, even though he doesn’t get the girl. If that’s the case, that’s a small bit of consolation for my poor ZX shipper heart; my boat never even left harbor, so I need all the consolation I can get. XD

    • I’m quite superficial, so I love Xuan and not Zhuan Xu 😛 I like the name!!!!! But yes, the character is interesting too.. Reading your comment, I cannot wait till I get to Vol 3!

      • No, there are bits and pieces of Jing internal monologues as well. Xiang Liu is the only male lead without ever one tiny thought process or internal monologue in the novel proper.

    • I like Zhuan Xu the best too. Even though I haven’t read volume 3 but the little dropped hints of his frivolous front and stormy interior… I guess I just love repressed 🙂

      A repressed person like Zhuan Xu makes me wonder what kind of person he really is beneath the facade. He vacillates between alpha male expansionist and disguise of frivolous wastrel, what is he really? Pure lover, great passion, tenderness, despair, hurt, fighting spirit?

      He is really not suited to Xiao Yao. I feel that Xiao Yao is not the right girl for him because she has failed to recognize his merits, at least to date. Xiao Yao also values doing what you feel like doing and Zhuan Xu is stealth. I think in ancient China culture it is ok to have romantic feelings and marry your distant cousin or senior disciple, call him affectionately Gege (brother) or Biaoge (cousin).

    • ZX’s inner thought was the perfect material for angst. I was Jing-shipper the entire way, even the sexy bad boy Xiang Liu could not make me sway. But poor poor ZX in volume 3 made me wish for a moment that Xiao Yao was with him instead.
      I do agree with you that reading the 3rd volume make me feel that ZX is the male lead instead. For Xiang Liu and Jing, anything that got to do with them is usually tied to Xiao Yao and how they are with her. But only for ZX that I feel that he has a bigger purpose beside Xiao Yao. And the biggest irony for me is that ZX is the character that receive the most and the least of Xiao Yao’s love, if that make sense 🙂

  9. Oh koala unni, thank you sooooo much. I love you!!!

    Of course, we’ll read the entire book, don’t think I’m ever gonna get bored or tired. In fact, i go on just to see how it ends and who xiao yao ends up with. Xiang liu keeps getting more interesting and jing keeps being amazing, dull at times bt amazing. And zhuan xu, i want to see how his feelings(romantic) for xiao yao will be expressed.

    Book two, here I come!!!

  10. After being introduced to this amazing novel, I went ahead and started reading the Chinese version. Am at Chapter 8 of the second book now, and while Jing remains my ship for his mere devotion and his beautiful name (I like his name best of all the characters!), I’m increasingly convinced that Xiang Liu’s the one who can bring Xiao Yao excitement in life and show her brand new worlds…I like how their eccentric minds interact and challenge each other’s beliefs.

    At this point of the novel, I haven’t sensed romantic love from Zhuan Xu to Xiao Yao…it’s more of love for a sibling, his last kin on earth? Waiting for him to show me something more, but perhaps he’s not capable of grand romance?

    Thanks for introducing this book! I’ve read lots of positive comments about this book back during BBJX days, but it’s only after reading your translations and reviews that made me really want to dive into the story!

  11. Is this a hint of the fallout to come…and Jing’s position being the only thing Yi Yang wants is going to make it tougher for him to break the engagement

    XL…you are a slick one…tormenting Xiao Yao AND Jing all at the same time just because they chose each other but cannot be currently

    • Actually, she only “chose Jing” bc XY doesn’t think that XL likes her. When she met up with Jing & wanted to play in the water. XY was thinking about XL. When she pulled Jing deep into the water & tried to pass air to him, Jing refused bc she was thinking about XL at that moment.

  12. First thing first. Thank you!!!
    My favorite character is XL too because everything he does is entertaining & exciting. After I read the whole chapter I always keep rereading his part of the story because he just pop and makes me smile:)
    I wonder if XL knows who XY real father is…
    When ZY was detoxing & was attacking XY, ZL must be wondering what’s going on but he knows she’s okay & not in danger. Poor Jing. That swimming thing…”I’m not in your eyes”…

    • yeah,my hear bleeds for jing, he’s my ship u know. the water romance is solely for xl especially the passing of air. xl ~xy had done that many times.so i understand! bad xy! 🙁

      • @neyan, that’s all you got from Jing & XY’s swimming date? It seems so typical of Jing shippers to just look at this on a surface level as “something XY did with XL many times” as if there were no other hidden meanings to it. XY was subconsciously missing XL when she was swimming & Jing knew that. In fact, there’s no way Jing doesn’t know that XY also has feelings for XL. Since Qing Shui Town, Jing has knwn that XY was very drawn to XL.

  13. Koalaaaa, thank you so much (>o<) I want to koala hug you for keep translating this book.

    Chapter 18 start to give a little hint about Xuan feeling to Xiao Yao and how Yi Yang true feeling to Jing.

    Poor Jing, and I feel like he's actually know that Xiao Yao have some feeling for Xiang Liu. Its sad when he said its not him in Xiao Yao eyes when they're diving together.

    But Xiang Liu too, is a great contender for Xiao Yao love. Sometimes I just hope that Tong Hua can spit another Xiao Yao so all of them can have thier own happy ending.

  14. In any book or any movie or drama there is always a main or secondary character that I would despise or care nothing for, whether because of the storyline or just for no reason. Only a few Anime that I had watched when I was younger did I love all the characters.

    Now I can add Lost You Forever and Onced Promised to my short list.

    Though Zhuan Xu was last on my list of favorites but he has been bumped many levels. I feel his pain and understand his struggles and the sacrifices I can already guess since he’s on the emperor’s path. The kingdom or the girl, *sighs*, and I can feel Zhuan Xu’s jealousy in this chapter when Xiao Yao came back from her date. It made me think of his situation of being brother-zoned by Xiao Yao without her knowing/feeling anything because of their close bond.

    I don’t like “public’e eye” Tu Shan Jing, but I like Ye Shi Qi and Xiao Yao’s Jing. I crave for any info of Xiang Liu but I understand Xiao Yao’s state of mind now as all she wants is the simple/boring life and her moments with Jing are just so sweet and relaxing. When Xiao Yao realize how Yi Yang was disgusted by Jing made me realize as well what he has to struggle through daily. Even if you are beautiful in your own way, if people constantly tell or look at you with disgust, you will be affected and I feel the reason why Jing is so insecure of Xiao Yao’s feelings for him is because of being put down/shamed for so long. People change with the blink of an eye so why should Xiao Yao stick with an ugly him. This made me see Jing in a whole new light and aches for him. And his sneakiness of making her remembers fifteen just makes me laugh now. Before I would think this is an underhanded trick but to see awkward/silent/”dull” Jing actually be cunning makes me happy that at least he’s trying.

    Then Xiang Liu, oh Xiang Liu…*sighs* what more can I say about him. I’m just glad there is a lot of people that loves him as much as I do. The comments from the last chapter about his brutality was a heated one that I avoided because all are entitled to one’s opinion. I love him because of his straightforwardness and realism. It probably began when Xiao Liu was taken hostage because of the medicine and him drilling his soldiers. Though he doesn’t need to, but he was willing to fight for a cause that was already hopeless. I call him stupid but he has my respects.

    All in all, I hate Tong Hua because she writes too many compelling characters that I can’t let go of. Though she does gets them from history and texts but she puts so much life into them that they are engraved in my hearts. Now I pray just for more happy moments than gut wrenching ones because I’m just happy to be apart of their journeys and wish them all happiness

  15. I don’t have a problem with my ship (XL) not sailing.
    Jing is a good choice as well and I may still warm up to Zhuan Xu.

    What I’m afraid is that my darling Xiang Liu dies. And that is the only reason I’m hesitating to continue reading.
    Only the thought already makes my eyes well up with tears.
    Please, let him live at the end of the novel, still wild and challenging and yet caring… and utterly smexy… ;–)

  16. If I ever need to have someone do something, I will definitely want it to be Xiang Liu! He follows through with his words.

    • I agree with you. I think Jing actually has a lot of sparks with Xiao Yao, and through her interactions with him we see a part of Xiao Yao’s softer, perhaps even “girly,” side. They complement each other in a yin and yang kind of way. She is something he is not and he is something she is not, and that makes their relationship interesting in a different manner compared to Xiao Yao’s relationship with Xiang Liu or Zhuan Xu.

      • Yeap. Jing-XY shipper. I am so glad that from the moment I read the novel until finished. I never root for any other pairing. Always Jing and Xiao Yao. Jing is the kinda guy I will be attracted to..the quiet,calm,get things done,the brain kinda guy,plus all his flaws bcoz of his past just made him perfect. For me, he is the one with most character development out of 3leading men. I keep reading comments on how Xiao Yao chose Jing bcoz he will give her a life she always wanted..a peaceful boring life. I have to disagree a lil bit. Esp. After reading all the book. Xiao Yao loves Jing because she loves him. Even if Jing dies, she still won’t choose the other two.

  17. eeee! I’m so excited I share Koala’s ship, and I know it’s highly irrational. eeee!!

    I wonder if us siding with different male characters reveal something about each camp of us here at Koala land.

    17= quiet comforts and simple pleasures
    XL= adventurous and passionate
    ZX= fortune and charisma

    Oh who am I trying to fool, I want ALL the men! all!!

    • This is how my shipping goes down:

      Xiao Liu with Shi Qi. A lifetime of love and companionship.

      Xiao Yao with Zhuan Xu. He had her first, she would totally be his if she never left his side.

      Gao Xing Jiu Yao with Xiang Liu. If Xiao Yao had Ah Nian’s innocence in love instead of being so scarred that all she wants is a lifetime commit over passion, then she would dare love Xiang Liu back and then he would actually do something about it. Perhaps they’ll go down in flames like her mother Ah Heng and her father Qi Yo, yet another Princess falls in love with an infamous demon/beast tragedy.

      • I thought the same… If xy loved XL back… Then it’s like history repeat itself… Like mother like daughter …

      • Like the scene where he asked her who does she want him to be. I think if she did give him an identity he would fight for her love.

      • But it’s because of the experience that xiao Yao had that caused her to lose her innocence in love. And her reluctance to trust and love is what attracts them together. Sigh. Love Xiang Liu to bits!!! How can someone be so giving? Probably the first in Tong Hua book who doesn’t ask for anything in return. Though it is possibly due to him knowing that it’s impossible to ask for anything but still… The best best best male lead EVER.

      • Would Xiang Liu do something about it if Xiao Yao had expressed interest?

        This is a very thought-provoking question that I still don’t know the right or most likely the right answer. Even if Xiao Yao expressed some kind of interest, Xiang Liu would still be responsible for the Sheng Nong soldiers.

        I think the only reason that Xiang Liu doesn’t express his love for her is because he knows his duties to the Sheng Nong soldiers will cause her pain one day because let’s be honest, their end is pretty evident even at this point.

        IF Xiang Liu weren’t the general of the rebel army, he would pursue Xiao Yao even if she doesn’t think he should “appear in her dreams.” So it is possible that he might not do anything even if Xiao Yao is willing.

        BUT Xiang Liu also has this wild and passionate side so maybe he will do something about it, maybe not much but at least express it in a more obvious way?

        This is why I love multilayered characters with depth and complexity. Even when you know all about the book and the circumstances, you still can’t perfectly predict their decisions.

      • @Maira I have thought about the question “would Xiang Liu had done something if Xiaoyao had expressed interest?” and likewise, “would Xiao Yao’s heart be swayed if Xiang Liu lead her on something more than now?”

        I think both had expressed interest a couple of times, if not rather subtlely for example, the moonlight walk, the under-the-sea stroll, the poison, the blood sucking etc). There will be more in future chapters. However, both have held back– especially Xiang Liu, in not leting Xiao Yao know the things he did for her, and these really frustrate us shippers at times, but it’s also beautiful, because we understand where they come from. We feel sorry for Xiang Liu because he is chained to this huge burden that he cannot let go of even if he really really loves Xiao Yao (Zhuan Xu is in a similar situation). Xiang Liu is what we’ll call a single-tracked guy who stays true to the end. Much like Qi Yo (Chi You) although Qi Yo is more reckless I’d say. Once they have been exposed to a certain belief, they stick to it no matter what, never letting go. Xiang Liu understand the nature of Xiao Yao, and he cannot bear to destroy/disrupt her needs and desire (a carefree and worry-less life). He may be wild and passionate, that’s why he enjoys being FFB. However he cannot allow himself more than that. Only in our dreams. That’s why in many cases, I have more respect for Xiang Liu than Qi Yo. Sorry.

        As for Xiao Yao… I afraid I can’t say much for her because I will be doing spoilers. All I can say is it’s truly a too-bad situation. And that’s why our hearts hurt with every decision the characters make.

    • @nekoi,

      Your interpretation of Xiang Liu is similar as to how I feel his character. As for a comparison, I feel Xiang Liu is able to control his own emotions, as oppose to Qi Yo. I guess he does have nine heads, so he acts more appropriately in regards to their circumstances. Things might have progress if she had been Wen Xiao Liu but because she’s the Gao Xing princess, I think both of them are afraid to act upon their emotions.

      I been following this novel thanks to ms koala and absolutely adore it. Everything is written so beautifully. Thanks again for your translation

      • @fanx

        Always my pleasure to find a similar thinking friend! However, I really find it funny that having nine heads literally means having more brains to think. Hehehehe. Not so morbid I guess?

        Many a time, I feel XinagLiu-XiaoYao is like an advanced version of Qiyo-AhHeng. They (ok, the writer wrote them such) are so determined not to end up like the older generation. Really entertaining.

      • Makes me remember that scene in Chapter 3, one of my favorite Xiang Liu scenes: Since you have nine heads, even what you say is deep. LOL hahahahaha. It’s a compliment, but if it had come from someone else, Xiang Liu probably had eaten that person like he said he would, but since it’s from Xiao Yao, we get this super cute and adorable scene.

        Questions987 edited this into English: http://s1094.photobucket.com/user/Vina_Le/media/XiangLiuScroll.jpg.html

        This gets me thinking. If Lost You Forever is adapted into a drama, Xiang Liu has to be played by a SUPER talented actor, who can convey all these things at once: charming, wild, passionate, but also restrained and level-headed, has tenderness hidden behind the outside thorns. He has to express Xiang Liu’s love for her even when all the things Xiang Liu said are completely different. If not handled well, it would just come off as typical violent bad boy stuff when Xiang Liu is anything but typical.

    • Besides personal preference, it may also has something to do experience in life and love, like how Xiao Yao’s experience impacted her preference so much.

      IF Xiao Yao hadn’t experienced all those crazy shit, I would like to think that it would have been very different.

      Personally, I confess to not having been in a relationship, so I am very much still like a girl who dreams a bit sometimes. Xiang Liu appeals to my longing for meeting the one, the one person who is meant just for me.

      A few people have mentioned this before. If circumstancs have been different, Zhuan Xu and Jing would not have come to love Xiao Yao. Their love for Xiao Yao come from mutual history and understanding, while I believe that no matter the circumstance, Xiang Liu and Xiao Yao would still fall for each other. Two peas in a pod.

      • Really? But I think XL and XY bond deepened because of their similar life experiences. Both had tortured pasts and – XL overcoming the slave death ring, XY defeating the nine tailed fox. Both are independent yet very lonely souls.

  18. Love all 3 characters!!! Thank you soooo much for your hard work in translating this novel koala!

    It’s hard not to love XL, and we know that Xiao Yao feels the same. I’m sure her heart beats faster and beats with joy when she sees XL, the kind of feeling you get when you see someone you just like/love hanging out with and be with all the time.

    Being a super practical person myself though, I’ll totally choose to marry Jing as a life-long partner. I know he’ll give up anything and everything to be with me, that’s what a life-long relationship is about!

    I have a question for those who have read Once Promised. What exactly is Qi Yo’s story? Sounds like he was the great general of the Sheng Nong Kingdom, but why does he kills all these tribes from the middle plain? He’s obviously not all bad if he’s Xiao Yao’s father, but why is he so hated by everyone? The fact that he has a small hut near the palace, does that mean the flame emperor likes him?

    Really would like to know a little bit more about Qi Yo, can someone tell me a little bit more about him?

  19. Thanks for the new chapter! (:

    I am also curious on Qi Yo! Anyone able to share some background on XY’s parents?

    • @frappymint What do you want to know about them? It’s really a long story. I’ll tell you about their cute first meeting. Ah Heng met Qi Yo while strolling around town, trying to diminish the fire in that town. What she didn’t know was, Qi Yo actually saw her many hundreds years earlier in a pool. It was that stolen glance that made him awake as a human-beast instead of just staying as a godly beast in form.

      When Ah Heng met Qi Yo in town, he recognised his first love immediately, and took to being the frivolous guy who enjoyed making harmless fun of and bullying her, yet secretly protecting her from her somewhat dangerous fire-extinguishing journey. She also didn’t know who he is and how powerful he is, because Qi Yo has already gained a huge notorious name in the world by then, plus he’s also the beloved disciple of the Flame Emperor (Sheng Nong).

      Unfortunately, he also didn’t know she is the only daughter of the famous Yellow Emperor (Xuan Yuan), and the engaged fiancee of the first son of the Grand Emperor (Gao Xing). When they finally know of each other’s identities, that’s when troubles really start, because Ah Heng is already in love with Qi Yo before she knows it.

    • Ok, long story short, Ah Heng married Shao Hao, but that was in name only. Both of them put up a good lovey dovey show for their elders to see and to fool them into thinking everything’s safe with the alliance of Gao Xing-Xuan Yuan. Because these 2 countries are scared of the unstable Sheng Nong, and they hope to eliminate Sheng Nong altogether. Because of the great acting, Qi Yo also fell into their lie, and began to grow wary of Ah Heng. This caused a great misunderstanding by the end of Book 1 (there are 2 books in total), and Ah Heng eventually died from the secret fatal attack by Zhu Rong who actually was aiming for Qi Yo. Ah Heng shielded Qi Yo even though she was anguished by the fact that her beloved actually think of the worst of her(Qi Yo thought she gave up her body to sleep with him just for a stupid secret manual!!!) I lost my heart together with Ah Heng by then.

      • @nekoi: The background info that you provided is more than enough! thank you (:

  20. A person like Tu Shan Jing is not dull at all.

    He is known as an astute businessman. This shows that he is not dull and understands the ways of the world.

    He admits he racks his brains to conjure a long shot plan, which benefits other parties and allows Xiao Yao indirectly to be drawn to Middle Plains where he can meet more easily with her. In order to bring to fruition his plan he has to bring together several elements e.g. Zhuan Xu, Feng Long, etc which he successfully motivates from a back end position.

    On a few occasions Xiao Yao glimpses his brilliance planning and she gasps that he looks the most pure but is the most sneaky one! Even in his handling of Xiao Yao, I am not surprised if he truly ends up with the girl, for all his patience and meticulousness:

    He confesses to Xiao Yao ahead of Xiang Liu and Zhuan Xu, thus sealing her first devotion or loyalty to him. Like an expert angler he reels her in and let’s her go at the right moments so as to land the final catch. For e.g. He holds back from kissing her repeatedly, knowing that it wasn’t the right moment to kiss her as her heart was not his. Even when she demands it, he resists her. When she is angry with him or she needs her time alone, he stands apart from her but never far away, and his gifts to her show her his devotion. For e.g. He sends her a bottle of plum wine for each day he missed her.

    Tu Shan Jing is an astute one but his over thinking works because his intentions are pure and his love for Xiao Yao is true. Faced with someone who loves her truly, waits for her forever and understands her, even though her initial love is not him, I don’t mind if he gets the girl in the end as reward for his hard work.

    • I agree with you. I do not think Jing is dull at all neither is he a push over that does everything Xiao Yao requests. If that was the case, he would have left his household a long time ago or he would have kissed her when she asked him for a kiss.

      I think Jing is that rare mixture of someone who is extremely intelligent and kind. I actually enjoyed him as a romantic lead. It’s rare in Tong Hua’s book where the romantic lead is such a beta male. If we talk about physical prowess, he is the weakest of the three male leads. If we talk about intelligence, I believe he is the most cunning. In war, he would be the strategist. If Xiao Yao picks Jing, it is not because she is settling or because he is the logical choice. She loves him. It is not the passionate kind of love, but it not any less deep or profound.

      I want everyone of the leads to be happy. They all experience such pain and difficulties in their life, that all I want for them is to be happy. I don’t think it is a matter of who deserves Xiao Yao more or who loves her most or who she loves most. It is who she choose to be with in the end.

  21. Xiang Liu

    What can I say? Fang Feng Bei

    Our fascinating boy, free spirited, most direct, valiant, brave hearted yet cynical character who understands the world and all its disguises

    His passion with Xiao Yao is explosive. He gives her no excuses for who she is or what she tries to pull. He is a fascinating character and even though I don’t understand him very well yet, I am drawn in by him. Each encounter between Xiang Liu and Xiao Yao aggravates yet remains indelible.

  22. Zhuan Xu

    My personal favorite outside the novel. I simply like the way he is. I understand how other girls can be attracted to him.

    He and Xiao Yao cannot be together. They are too close as brother and sister and he is too late. Jing has won her devotion and Xiang Liu has taken her passion by the time Zhuan Xu is just starting his passion for her. Besides at this stage there are no signs that Xiao Yao is attracted to him as a man, unlike Ah Nian and Xing Yue.

    But outside of the novel I think I like Zhuan Xu best because he is the right balance of everything. I like that he has Xiang Liu’s external velocity and Jing’s internal retrospection and a whole lot of other things too.

  23. I have immersed myself so deep into this whole shipping ordeal that I have forgotten to just really enjoy the book. When Xiang Liu didn’t appear or interact with Xiao Yao I would become whiny and not really want to read. But reading this chapter allowed me to take a step back and realize that all 3 male leads are great contenders for Xiao Yao’s heart.

    I forget that soft spoken and calm Jing has a crippled leg. In my head I keep picturing him as this perfect guy from head to toe, until Yi Yang gives him such a loathsome look that I recall this incident. It’s sad to know that at one point Hou actually loved and doted on Jing despite being rejected by Jing’s mother continously. Had she not been so cruel to a child who had no fault of being born, their relationship would have not turned out like this.
    I like the way Zhuan Shu and Xiao Yao are exactly right now. Where they understand each other and are exposed to each other’s vulnerabilities and it’s perfectly okay. I know that Zhuan Shu harbors romantic feelings for Xiao Yao of some sort, but can’t do anything until he can give her a world where she will be forever safe; I just don’t want their relationship to change or gear into romantic love 🙁
    & As for Xiang Liu I think I’ve made myself pretty obvious how I feel about him. He is my favorite character 🙂 Everything about him is so mysterious and intriguing. He’s so cruel and distant, yet so warm hearted at the same time. Even if he doesn’t end up with Xiao Yao I would be okay (not entirely lol) because he’s already such a great character.<3 I enjoyed their little moments in this chapter too! Xiao Yao do you possibly have Xiang Liu in your eyes? Keke.
    I do wonder though, if Xiang Liu knew or had any relation to Qi Yo since he defended him against everyone else. Maybe it was the General side of him kicking in?
    There's so many things I want to ramble about, but I will stop here 🙂 & to Koala, thank you x1000 for another great chapter!! You're really awesome. I thought I would suffocate if I didn't see a chapter today lol Please take care of yourself!! Looking forward to the next chaoter 🙂

    • i. think it’s a good thing jing didnt fix his broken leg, so that everytime hou sees jing limp , that. bad brother huo would be reminded of how evil he is. he cause that limp.

      • I like it that he didn’t get it fixed either. I think it is one of the reasons that makes him Xiao Yao’s Shi Qi and not Tu shan Jing. Also I think he has come to accept the way he is because even if people are disgusted or loathe the way he looks now it does not matter because Xiao Yao loves him for who he is unconditionally and that’s the only acceptance he needs. 🙂 I like that we have this trait of Jing. It shows that when you love someone everything about them is beautiful even their flaws.

  24. Thanks for translating and introducing this wonderful wonderful novel! I resist posting my comments until you revealed your fav.
    I love all the leads BUT my heart belongs to Xian Liu. Agree with you on his complexity in so many different levels. Just love love him.
    Thank you again for bringing this amazing novel to your block.

  25. Ms Koala, I am surprised but happy with your choice as I thought you will choose Jing based on previous commentary..haha. Though Jing is a nice guy, he is indecisive at times which end up hurting XY. XL share a kindred spirit with XY and the epilogue in Vol.3 had me tearing.

  26. Thank you, Koala, for your hard work! Jing is my favorite although XL is becoming more appealing through time. I went back I reread from the beginning and I find XL was so cruel to XY . He sucked her blood like a vampirer, so scary…

    • Me too! But I think Xiang Liu gets more fleshed out in the later chapters, but he really isn’t all that bad…Though I hope further down there’ll be more about him because currently I’m having a hard time reconciling the Xiang Liu outside of Qing Shui Town and the Xiang Liu who was traumatising Xiao Yao in Qing Shui Town. Maybe it’s due to a lack of monologue on his end, so we only see him from Xiao Yao’s coloured perspective.

  27. I must admit… I’ve been a lurker since yesteryears and this is the only time I really felt like coming out of hiding to give my thanks to koala for doing such an amazing job with recaps and translations.

    And *sigh. I myself am a crazy XL fan. I feel like I’m watching nine different conversations whenever he comes into the scene. The layers… it’s so bad but good. I suppose it depends on what ship you’re on but I feel the book is really about XL.

    I’m on a ship that’s bound to sink but I can’t stop myself. I wonder if tong hua will ever consider writing a book about XY and XL meeting in another lifetime. *sniff

    Anyway, great job so far koala! Please keep up with the translations… within reasonable and healthy time frames. I wish I knew how to read the character. *camping until the next chapter*

    • I feel like you too. Like how Yun Zhong Ge was about Meng Jue for me, Lost You Forever is all about Xiang Liu for me. As Koala mentioned, he is the only character that we don’t get a inner monologue from. I think this is deliberate because Tong Hua wants us to examine his character in layers.

      Like in the beginning, most of us thought he was a mean kind of guy, what’s with all the violence, but when we evaluate his behaviors on a deeper level like naming his winged ride Furball, taking Xiao Yao on a moon stroll under the moonlight, that’s when we can see the tenderness, the true Xiang Liu if he weren’t bounded by the rebel army.

      I have this theory that Tong Hua envisioned the story of Lost You Forever to be about Xiang Liu’s unrequited (?) or at least unexpressed love but because she’s such a great writer, we get the other 2 male characters too. I know people will disagree with me, but this is how I feel! Does anyone also agree with me or am I crazy?

      • Not crazy! I’m on the Jing ship, but slowlyyyyy Xiang Liu is creeping up behind me. I love how he challenges Xiao Yao’s beliefs and thoughts. Am reading a later chapter where he turned her words around and showed her another perspective to her beliefs. That was the point where I really felt Xiang Liu may actually be the correct guy for her!

      • I don’t agree it was unrequited love. I’m not sure why you think XY doesn’t consider XL to be someone she loves. When she was talking to her grandfather about her marriage prospects, beside Jing, she considered XL. Even when he has never expressed any romantic love towards her at that time. Her precious mirror that only contained his image at this point in the novel.

  28. The Chinese subtitle of Lost You Forever is a poem by Ouyang Xiu.

    A Recital of a True Heart

    Raising of the curtains in the morning as light frost lifted away,
    I warmed my hands to try on her plum make-up.
    Feeling surrounded in the sorrows of parting,
    The brows I drew were long like mountain ranges.

    Recollecting bygones and bemoaning loss of time predispose me to suffer pain.
    To that song from the past, her smile not the same as her brows remain closed,
    Most heart-rending is when I retrace them.

    I love the imagery of the eyebrows, and how the man used her make-up to remember her.

    In ancient times, the male partner usually helps the woman to draw the eyebrows. It’s often used on TVs to show the intimacy between husband and wife. It’s an everyday, simple task, really; but it’s the simplicity, just drawing her eyebrows everyday, that makes this poem so powerful.

    The man misses the woman so much, he uses her make up to re-traces her eyebrows, trying to imagine her smile while singing the song that used to make her smile, but of course the brows remain closed. The drawing is not the real thing, and that’s what so heart-rending.

    Actually, Tong Hua Song Dynasty poetry titles in Book 1 often times are from poems that use the eyebrows imagery like in Book 1 Chapter 9 poem and Chapter 17.

    Chapter 9’s poem is one of my favorites:

    Yu Jie Xing by Fan Zhongyan.

    My heart has been broken, and I have no way of drowning my sorrows; before the wine has reached my lips it turns to bitter tears. The broken lamp winks out light, and I recline crooked on the pillow. I know too well what it is like to sleep alone. This manifests itself in the contortions of my heart, and the furrowing of my brow; I know that I have no way of escaping it.

    • I prefer the Li Bai written poem for Chang Xiang Si, especially after encountering it in Zhen Huan Zhuan.

      长相思,在长安。 络纬秋啼金井阑,微霜凄凄簟色寒。 孤灯不明思欲绝,卷帷望月空长叹。 美人如花隔云端。 上有青冥之长天,下有渌水之波澜。 天长地远魂飞苦,梦魂不到关山难。 长相思,摧心肝。   

      The last line: Endless longing, crushes the heart. (T__T)

      I’m going off topic, but Zhen Huan Zhuan really introduced me to a lot of beautiful poems. My favourite now must be this line from Zhuo Wen Jun’s Bai Tou Yin: 愿得一心人,白头不相离. It’s such a simple line but packed with backstory about how the person reciting it yearns for something so simple yet perhaps never easily attainable for him/her back during the ancient times.

      Another notable one would be Chang Hen Ge by Bai Ju Yi:。天长地久有时尽,此恨绵绵无绝期。Such a painful line, which I think may suit Lost You Forever’s gods and goddesses, since they live such long lives. To think that even their lives would end one day, many many years down the road, yet their regret will continue on long after their time has passed. So impactful!

      • I love that poem too, especially the first 2 and last 2 lines.

        I endlessly yearn
        In Chang An (Endless Peace).
        This endless yearning
        Breaks my heart

        Another Li Bai’s poem appears in Book 2 Chapter 8’s title, and I think there is a significance to that because Tong Hua is very thoughtful and deliberate in these chapter titles. Unfortunately, I wasn’t able to find an english translation of that poem.

        Also correction to my last post: the eyebrows imagery appear in chapters 9 and 15, not 17, even though chapter 17’s title is also from a poem (interestingly it’s the continuation of chapter 12’s title)

        Actually, I made a wikia page for the English readers with a list of all the poetry titles and the poems in all 3 books. No spoiler! It’s not completed yet but I’m 90% there.

        http://lostyouforever.wikia.com/wiki/Origins_and_Explanations_of_the_Poetry_Titles_and_Poems_Used_by_Tong_Hua

        I think reading the whole poems and understanding their meaning and origins really elevate the whole reading experience.

        Like an upcoming chapter title will use a poem line from the Seven Step Verse, and understanding that poem and its origin lend a whole another level of meaning to the chapter. That poem also fits what happens in that chapter so much.

        Sometimes, the line and poem describe a character. A poetic chapter title in Book 3 describes Zhuan Xu so much. It was like HIS chapter and HIS chapter title. A few short words that sum up everything about his feelings about Xiao Yao.

        Wish I’d done this back when I was reading Yun Zhong Ge. I remember Book 3 of that novel was PACKED with Han proses and poems. Unfortunately, I didn’t have the skills to investigate back then.

      • Gosh, Chang Hen Ge (loosely translated as ‘song of eternal hatred’) remains one of my favourite poem. It’s so epic (and long) it’s painful. It’s about the tragic love of Emperor Xuanzong of Tang & famous Yang Guifei. Parts of it kinda describes Zhuan Xu except they ended up differently.

      • @ Maira – I’m not sure if it’s in Chapter 8 (“多情却似总无情”) of Volume 8 that this takes place, but one character’s internal monologue regarding Zhuan Xu really, really struck me:

        (Paraphrased, very very badly) “Some people thought he was a man of ‘many feelings’ [多情, which implies that he is flirtatious/loves many women]. Other people thought he was a man of ‘no feelings’ [无情, which means that he is cold-hearted/loves no woman]. But the truth was, all of his feelings were directed toward one woman only – Xiao Yao.”

        How could I not ship ZX?

        The thing is, despite shipping him, I don’t necessarily want him and XY together romantically in this story. ZX can’t give XY what she wants, which is to put her above all else, yet as emperor, he would have to put his country and people first always. Plus, ZX has a bevy of beautiful women constantly swirling about him. Really, I just want XY to be ZX’s constant companion; they don’t even need to be lovers, as long as ZX has someone by his side to lessen his burden of ruling the world.

      • @Maira: Omg..I didn’t see it that way. 在长安 – I read it literally as “In Chang’an”, but yes, for it to also mean “In Endless Peace” is beautiful too. Despite living in eternal peace, emotionally, the person is broken.

        Actually, I skipped the titles and dived into the narrative directly. Thanks for bringing this up and adding a whole new layer of meaning to each chapter!

        Chapter 8 of Book 2 “忽闻悲风调” broke my heart and stabbed a digger into the sails of my ship.

        Here’s my very amateurish translation of the poem:

        闲夜坐明月
        幽人弹素琴
        忽闻悲风调
        宛若寒松吟
        白雪乱纤手
        绿水清虚心
        钟期久已没
        世上无知音

        Sitting under the moonlight
        I listen to the sounds of the recluse’s zither
        The sudden melody of “Sorrowful Wind”
        Resembles the sounds of “Frozen Pines”
        A lady’s gentle fingers pluck furiously to “White Snow”
        “Clear Water” cleanses off vain thoughts
        Zhong Qi has long passed on
        There will never be another confidant.

        The 4 titles in the poem are famous ancient tunes and reflects that the recluse is skilled at the zither. But like Bo Ya, his sole confidant has passed on and no one can understand his tunes as well anymore. 🙁

        I’m gonna pay more attention to the titles from now on!

      • @ M
        It was something similar to that! I can’t remember where that phrase is but the title was something like that.

        It was in Book 3 Chapter 8: 多情却似总无情, a line from the poem Parting II by Du Mu.

        Various translations of the line:

        Much feeling but seem all without feeling[1]
        My heart enslaved, yet heartless I appear.[2]
        With much love
        You act
        As if you care not much.[3]

        Which ALL fits Zhuan Xu it hurts.

        Tong Hua uses a lot of poems about parting.

        @ Karened

        Thanks for the great translation! This will help me in editing the wikia for this chapter. I love analyzing these titles so much.

    • Thank you Miss Koala for this beautiful translation of this book that I would have never been able to experience! <3

  29. XL ftw!

    Am i d only one to feel d heat of that scene of almost bite?

    @Maira: insightful comments, great to know that there are readers of koala’s as skilled as yourself! Xp

  30. For me, Jing is the male lead. What happened at the start of book 2 was the result of Jing’s manipulations. He is the silent, manly, strong and clever type lead from all dramas combined. He is also a one-woman man since after knowing XY he remain focus on her. The fact that he discovered the secret place of XY’s parents point to a similar fate for him and XY (secretive, clandestine but true love).

    Xiang Liu is the typical bad boy lead that all female gender fantasize but in reality find hard to handle. I, for one, will find it stressful second guessing all his moves. Constantly doubting his feelings for me. Like what the Yellow Emperor implied, to love an enemy is hard. You will never know for sure if he loves the You or if he loves you because he can benefit from you. All females like passion and excitement, but after years will past and problems kicking in, the passion and excitement will turn into indifference and sometimes even disgust. So yeah, XY must enjoy the ride with XL, to keep Jing alert at all times in not losing the girl.

    Zhuan Shu, for me, is the typical second lead. Always reliable, always there and in a one-sided romantic love. He might even sacrifice something but not everything since he will realize in the end that he can’t get the girl no matter what he will do. Besides, he wants to claim his birth rights, and if he succeed, he can’t do whatever he wants because there are protocols to follow. Just like Jing have to follow protocols. If he fails, he will be too broken down to pursue the girl.

    • Oh, hoho. You will find out more about Xiang Liu soon. And I hope you will form a different opinion of him afterwards. 🙂
      Though I have to agree, not many girls have the heart and energy to keep on double guessing a guy’s motives. Bad Xiang Liu, bad!

      • I happen to find that intriguing. I love to THINK about intentions! The more puzzling I find it, the more I feel drawn to it. Hee 😉

      • @Maira I guess it’s easy for us to say because as onlookers, we know exactly what is going on, and how much of a sacrifice that person makes. But our poor clueless protagonist does not know the intentions and was never told. That’s why we can only stab our hearts on her behalf. It also doesn’t help that the boy doesn’t make things easier on himself.

      • Lol… That pretty sum up the reason I am not on XL’s ship. Tong Hua did not flesh out his inner monologue except dropping hint here and there. We are pretty much need to read between the line. And I am pretty dense girl, keep asking what the heck does this guy want with XY? I do not like to guess… Please give me a straightforward motive. Lol.

        I started to understand him when I read the part where Both of them could feel each other feeling on the night where XL met XY the first time she was in the girl form.

        Well.. By that time I was already sailed on jing’s ship. Even though, the more XY spent time with XL in FFB’s form, I could see his awesomeness, I am still rooting for Jing. Jing is honest with XY, did not hide any motive. When he was sad and afraid he felt inferior to XY, he still discussed with XY. Well, communication is the best formula for good marriage anyway.

        Yeah, Jia you Jing!!

      • I don’t think that Tong Hua didn’t “flesh” it out, as in Xiang Liu wasn’t a fleshed out character, but more like she chose not to inlude his inner monologue until the very end because that actually adds on to his complexity.

        Seriously, we won’t get even a hint of confirmation until very end. This is Tong Hua’s deliberate decision because wants us to examine Xiang Liu on multiple levels.

      • @Maira @Rin I think what Tong Hua wanted for Xiang Liu is to have us 后知后觉。 This is another way of fleshing out a character because he has different layers that we need to discover ourselves. However, I think that many readers are adept at reading between lines when they first chance upon this series, else there wouldn’t have been so many avid Xiang Liu fans.

        Usually readers are fans of character developments, not saying other characters other than Xiang Liu do not have (heck, even Furball has developed by the end of the books). In the case of Xiang Liu, the writer makes people realise it too late that’s why it hurts our heart so at the end, even though this series is considered a ‘happy ending’. 🙂

  31. Thank you for the translation! =) Ekk.. I’m getting nervous because I now understand why the Grand Emperor and the Yellow Emperor are so worried that their influence might not be enough to protect Xiao Yao. Looks like Qi Yo has a lot of enemies! I fear for her life since she doesn’t have strong spiritual powers and these gods can be powerful and sneaky. And this is a blood feud so these descendants probably wouldn’t care about her bloodline.

    • Damn people should kill the yellow emperor instead. Though then again he sacrificed only his family members to win the war against Sheng Nong.

  32. man! sometimes it’s frustrating to read how great xl or selfless he is. clearly fellow commentators here who can read chinese and had read all three volumes has the edge over us who cannot.

    anyway if xl has his … who do you want me to be
    then my jing will have his two words ‘ I LISTEN”

    isn’t it all or most womem wants their partners to listen to them,
    i want you to be who u are so dont ask me or dictate who u gonna be coz if ur not, down the road you’ll be exasperated and leave.
    many relationships failed because d women tries to change the other person.
    so. as a woman who’ll chose a partner i prefer someone who listens to me and understands me, my bad and good side all into one.

    • I read the Chinese text (though I’m only at chapter 10 of book 2), but I’m still firmly on Jing’s ship (despite the other two leads being VERY attractive). His name wins hands down. I love his Chinese character!

  33. Xiang Liu is by far my favorite character in this novel too!

    Not really sure what specifically draws me into him… XL’s character, compared to the rest, seems to be shrouded in mystery. Suffice it to say that for me XL is a very complex and intriguing character.

    Zhuan Xu is a very interesting character too. His path to becoming an emperor is all kinds of fascinating.

    A lot of people seem to think that (1) XL and ZX made their own choices in life, and that (2) XL and ZX could have chosen differently. While (1) is very true, (2) is an otherwise gray area – how could XL and ZX have chosen differently when their very choices define who they really are?

    Jing and Xiao Yao’s romance… Jing having a fiancee being Fang Feng Yi Ying ruins it for me.

    Anyway, would XY’s story trajectory in later chapters be more about herself and not just her relationship with the three male lead guys?

    • I agree with Jing having a fiancee (although it was not his decision) I just think it has to do largely with him being Jing too and just not Shi Qi. I hate it how he has to neglect her in front of others, but as soon as they disappear he shows concern and affection, which obviously leads back to him having a fiancee. The whole sneaking around to cuddle and date is just not cutting it with me, it’s as if they’re having an affair xD. I suppose Yi Yang and Hou are doing the same and Jing knows Yi Yang is not in love with him so he doesn’t care too much just that in front of others he has to put up a front.

  34. I am all for Xiao Yao to have a lifetime of love and companionship with her Jing. It is a blessing to be able to have that – what else does a girl want?

    • To your first question, I don’t know because I think I will never read the first book. Also to your 2nd question, maybe because how the little girl reacted and the orphan boy from the Mu? family is a dead giveaway that she definitely look like her father in red. Even the Grand Emperor say she have his real dad’s eyes.

  35. Dear Koala,
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    • Anyways I really like this new start of the 2nd chapter! It help created a faster pace of the plot line, but after looking at this chapter, we can really see how Xiao Yao treat and see in each of them. Anyways, I thought I had a ship, but now… I don’t know anymore~ 🙁 All of them are soo great and so complex I can’t just ship one person to Xiao Yao! I wish there were three parallel world with Xiao Yao in each of them one male lead in each of the world and have different happy ending for them yeah? Just a thinking but that sounds like a good plan. 😀

  36. Yeah.. I still can’t ship the characters! Haha. Maybe that’s me protecting my own heart because I don’t want my ship to sink. However if I do ship, it’s more based on the characters (in this case from Xiao Yao’s interest) rather than from what I want because it’s so hard to ship what I want because it’ll probably sink! I’ll probably cry a river if I invest too much in it. Haha.

    I do like Zhuan Xu, but he seems like everything Xiao Yao doesn’t want as a mate. Though she loves him dearly and understands him so much, she doesn’t want a complicated life and his life is way too complicated. The poor guy has too much burden to carry. =( And so far, Xiao Yao hasn’t shown any romantic interest in him. She hurts when he hurts, but I don’t really remember any part where she will just “miss” him like she does with Jing and Xiang Liu. But that’s probably because she basically lives with Zhuan Xu and knows that she will return to him. =P

    Jing is definitely the simplest of the 3 in his devotion and actions. But at times I think he’s too nice and passive which can drive Xiao Yao crazy. But it’s also his simple mind that makes her trust him and choose him. I just wish that he would be more firm and discerning in how to handle the whole Fang Feng Yi Yang situation. Sometimes I wonder if Jing just tells his grandmother the whole truth about what happened to him and that his heart was pretty much dead, but Xiao Yao saved him physically and emotionally, then maybe it would be easier for him to end the engagement. I don’t know. He’s just so slow in doing things that drives me crazy. Haha.

    I really like Xiang Liu, and I cannot really put his relationship with Xiao Yao into words. Xiao Yao understands but doesn’t understand him. They have this strange push and pull relationship where they can just be themselves; they can play, bicker, get mad at each other, but at the end of the day, they just enjoy each other. However, he also shoulders a huge responsibility and is an enemy of all of her kin. That makes their relationship too complicated. She’s pretty much hiding their friendship from everyone (And here I’m talking about Xiang Liu and not Fang Feng Bei).

    • @xiaoyi I like that you don’t have a ship, and don’t worry for not having one. I’m sure you’ll still enjoy this series as the rest of many of us. 🙂 Yes, Xiao Yao hides her relationship with Xiang Liu from everyone else. Have you thought about why she does that? Is it because she is ashamed of him? Of coz not. She is protecting him! Even though she knows he is the much sought after, most dreaded, most dangerous demon a person could come across. She is scared of him, yet she makes no real effort to run away from him. One secret part of Xiao Yao (heart) craves for adventure and passion, yet she lives out the rest of her actions via her logical mind. We can say, Xiang Liu is her vice, and she is not about to share him with anyone else. She even chuckles and smiles when thinking of / doing something for him. Hehe.

    • There are three books with 17 chapters each I think, plus an extra heartbreaking epilogue. Koala is doing an amazing job translating the chapters at such speed!

  37. Xiang Liu owns my heart as well!!
    I can accept that Jing is probably the best choice for Xiao Yao, and he’s definitely the one that wants her the most and willing to give up everything to be with her. He might seem dull on the surface, but he’s such a genius and can be more manipulative than people give him credit for. It’s just that what he wants is something no one would imagine – he just wants to be with Xiao Yao, pure and simple.

    As for Zhuan Xu, I feel like his mommy issue and insecurity is what made him hesitant to hold onto Xiao Yao. If he told Xiao Yao how he feels before she completely fell for Jing then I’m sure Xiao Yao will never leave him. Instead he feels like he has to have the whole world under his control first for him to “deserve” being with Xiao Yao.

    Xiang Liu for me is such an unforgettable character. This is the first time I’ve ever actively searched for fanfiction because I desperately need my boy to be happy.

  38. Thing is I have sensed from the beginning of the novel that Xiang Liu might be yours and everyone else’s favourite character and that is why besides being smitten by the quintessential embodiment of the perfect 2nd male lead that is Jing, I kept on the lookout for Xiang Liu and Xiao Yao’s interactions to prepare myself to change ship. I love sparks like everyone else but for me half the time Xiang Liu’s actions confuse the hell out of the girl that I can only conclude that I am as simple minded as they come. I was prepared to ship him more but found that I couldn’t…in the end I would come to respect him. His choices. His life. His way of loving XiaoYao. He as XiaoYao’s soulmate.

    While you might find Jing dull to read, I am forever squealing whenever I read scenes of them together. I was marking pages of their scenes as I read so I could come back to devour the scenes again later…However I have to acknowledge his “burdens” was less than ZhuanXu or XiangLiu in this epic world of TongHua. His background may be as sad but it doesn’t have the powerful impact like that of ZhuanXu and XiangLiu. Relatively speaking he was blessed in his childhood unlike those two. And perhaps to compensate, TongHua made him suffer in his adulthood, adding physical disfigurement to place on par in suffering with the other leads.

    I think perhaps our preferences stem from our idea and perception of love. I am both a romantic and a pragmatist which might influence how I tend to choose my shipping. And probably the fact that I read Ah Heng and Qiyou’s story.

    For sure like you I think ZhuanXu is an honorable man…I understand where he is coming from and would defend his actions as well. The only reason he is lacking behind the 2 other leads is because he is slowest in realizing his true feelings and what he ultimately wants. I will leave my thoughts of him for later in the book when his story takes center stage.

    This is a lovely story and regardless of who you ship Xiaoyao with, there is enough sweetness and heartbreaks to go around in the chapters to come.

  39. I really appreciate the translator for bringing this novel for us for free. But i think i will need to refrain from reading all comments and translator notes because how seriously i despised XL and FL shipping.

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