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Lost You Forever Chapter 25: Suddenly Hear the Sorrowful Wind Tune — 54 Comments

  1. I know Jing is kind and soft-hearted and won’t harm an ant and thus his response towards his engagement that wants to please everyone and harm no one but in the end harming those he cared about most. But he couldn’t even tell and talk to Xiao Yao when it first happened?

    • Exactly y I just can’t ship jing with xiao Yao. Up to now he seems so weak in his dealings with ffy and his grandma. I doubt Xiang liu or zx would have ever let themselves be caught in this clichéd situation–drugged and taken advantage of by some girl they didn’t like/want. Plus his interactions with xy tho initially sweet starts to get boring compared to xiao yaos interactions with Xiang liu

  2. Thanks koala!! I really loved the intereactions between Xiang Liu and Xiao Yao. it’s was very sweet especially when Xiao Yao felt less pain since Xiang Liu is heling her to cope with the pain. I think out of all three male leads, Xiang Liu helps her the most when she is experiencing hardships and pain. That being said, it’s not like the other two male leads don’t help her, it’s just that Xiang Liu and Xiao Yao has a special connection. As Xiao Yao herself said, Xiang Liu somehow always help relieve her stress and anxieties. Sigh…. I wished Xiang Liu would just tell her all the things he had done for her so she can appreciate him more. But if he did tell her than it won’t be Xiang Liu…
    Thank you koala for your translations!!

    • Jing is just boring. As a reader I dont excited for his character anymore. This is what Xiao Yao want the most. *sigh* But i’ m a bit happy that she realized Xiang Liu might shared her heartache and help her eased it. That is just so beautiful. I also missed FFB and Xiao Yao’s moments together. This is truly shows what their lives could have been if XL is not XL just regular guy name FFB. Like u said earlier XL owed his life to the General. If only he met her a thousand years earlier. 🙁
      Thanks for the translation again.

  3. really only xiang liu(fang fei bei) n xiao yiao part worth to be read. the rest meant to forget (burning with rage).

    thanks a lot for the translation Koala.

  4. THANK YOU MISS KOALA!!!
    You have no idea how much joy your translations bring me, god knows the number of times that I refresh your page each week in hope for an update on Lost You Forever. Does this mean the Jing-ship has officially crashed? As a Xiang Liu shipper I think his actions are so poignant and endearing, Tong Hua you really know how to work your way into the crevasses of a female heart so much to the point that I should hold it against you for not being able to find these qualities in the males of today but sadly I don’t. Also, Miss Koala, are you going to write a post about your thoughts concerning Bu Bu Jing Qing, I’m really interested to know what your thoughts are about it.

  5. Awe, Koala dear you don’t know how much I was grinning! Thank you so much!
    Xiang Liu is so stupid I really want to punch him Lol even then I love him for being this way and always showing how selfless he is when it comes to loving Xiao Yao. This otp makes my heart cry. I can’t get enough of them! Every moment with them is like forever, yet feels so short. I’m glad this time Xiang Liu at least let her feel his presence. It must have been something intense beyond just feeling his heart beat for her to rush out like that. Xiao Yao I too wish he could just stay Fang Feng Bei so you guys can be together 5ever! Lol. Okay enough with my otp feels..Thanks again Koala! <3

  6. THANK YOU MISS KOALA!!!
    You have no idea how many times I refresh your page in hope of an update on this translation project. Does this mean that the Jing-ship has died? I guess what appealed to me the most about Jing was the fact that out of all the leads, Jing is the most realistic in reality but a part of me thinks that Xiao Yao is like her mother and thus why she gravitates towards Xiang Liu and has this mutual understanding and attraction towards him. As a Xiang Liu shipper, I find his actions to be so poignant and endearing, a testament to Tong Hua’s craft really in creating these characters who are so loved, though I should really hate Tong Hua because I have come to accept the fact that you can never meet such people in real life. Keep up the good work and I look foward to the next chapter.

    Also, are you going to write your thoughts regarding Bu Bu Jing Qing.

  7. Okay, I’m guessing this will be a pretty unpopular opinion but I’m posting it anyway. Jing has been raped. Rape is coercing someone into having sex without their consent. Having sex with someone when you are aware that your partner is under the impression that you are another person is rape. Your partner consented to have sex with the person you are impersonating, not you. A cursory Google search reveals places where this actually is statutory rape and can be persecuted as such. For example, “California law now clarifies that “an attacker who coerces a victim into sexual activity by impersonating somebody else can be prosecuted for felony rape,” according to a state lawmaker’s news release.”
    Source: http://www.businessinsider.in/California-Fixes-Law-That-Said-Pretending-To-Be-A-Womans-Boyfriend-To-Have-Sex-With-Her-Isnt-Rape/articleshow/22499955.cms

    This was exacerbated by the fact that his judgement was impaired from the confusion spell and love potion. I don’t know if Tong Hua intended this scene to be read as rape, but it seems quite clear to me. I’m pretty indifferent to Jing as a love interest for Xiao Yao (Xiang Liu all the way!) but, in my opinion, what you personally think of his strengths and weaknesses as a character is a separate issue from an incident that violated his fundamental dignity as person, an act supported by his grandmother no less; one of the people he loves the most in the world. It is a betrayal of trust in the worst way possible and one that will have lifelong repercussions for him. Marry Fang Feng Yi Yang? Lose Xiao Yiao? How can he even begin to accept the child he was forced to father and will, in all likelihood, be expected to rear?

    Calling him weak for letting it happen is victim blaming. Calling him weak for not doing something about Yi Yang and his grandma sooner is victim blaming. Calling him weak for not having a response you think is appropriate; a strong enough opposition to his grandma’s authority or whatever after the incident is saying there is only one appropriate way for rape victims to react.

    Just to be clear, I’m not pointing fingers at anyone in this thread. I just believe that this is a major arc for his character and more importantly, an incident with wider cultural repercussions in our society where a lot of people still believe that men can’t be raped, and I would like to see this recognised and included in any discussion of the novel.

    • I completely agree with what you said. Societal views were rather screwed up back then, where rape victims were pretty much forced to marry their rapist.

      I’m not trying to victim-blame Jing or anything, but I really wished he had been more relentless in dealing with his family. What ended up happening was definitely NOT his fault, but Jing really is too nice in my opinion. And it is unfair that he had to marry.

      I expected something like this from Yi Yang, but after finding out that his grandmother was behind it too, I was really disgusted by the both of them. If only she knew what a conniving bitch Yi Yang truly is.

    • Er…I think it best not to bring in modern criminal law into a novel about ancient gods and fantastical beings. Otherwise all the violence would be discussions on assault and battery and all the attempted assassinations turned into attempted murder trials. Jing fell into a trap, that’s it. In modern times what happened might fit the rape statutes but not back then and it’s definitely not discussion worthy vis-a-vis the novel. We can discuss the familial betrayal by his grandmother as well as Yi Yang’s devious scheming.

      • Sorry, I didn’t mean to make it into a discussion about fitting modern law into Tong Hua’s world. I definitely meant it more as a discussion about how this affects the characters and how the writer intended their interactions to be read. I do think that rape is a bit different from other acts of violence like assault and murder because of the way it dehumanises its victims, which is why I chose to comment on this rather than all the poisoning and assassination attempts. But then again, that might be just my opinion.

        So, while I disagree that it’s not discussion worthy vis-a-vis the novel, I see that you don’t feel the same way and since this is your blog, I will respect that and respect the context you want to keep discussions in. 🙂

    • I agree on it as a violation of his person and betrayal by the person he loved and trusted the most…I’m shocked by the response in the comments that he is weak for not killing his Grandmother and Yi Yang as if that is an acceptable answer

  8. Thank you thank you Captain K! I too refreshed this page a zillion times and it is finally here. XL and XY is so perfect for each other. They are one soulmate made for each other. Unfortunately with their circumstances there will never be a chance between them. But I will take whatever Tong Hua can give us. Even a little glimpse of them spending time together makes my heart melts.

    Old granny and Yi Yang can go to hell. I am not sure why but I think the child is not Jing. Could it be of Hou. I mean she was so disgusted with Jing let alone sleep with him…not so sure. Hope my theory is correct. Jing grow some backbone and keep your promise to XY!

    • I was thinking that it could be hou’s too. I mean Hou’s wife knew he was sleeping around and yi yang and hou have serious chemistry. My assumption is that she forced sleeping with Jing because she was pregnant and tricked the grandma into believing it was Jing’s. Lots of deceit. At some point everything will come out. It may sound wrong, but I hope the grandmother lives long enough to see what a witch she made as her granddaughter.

      • I know the grandmother was in on the trick. I’m just not sure she was as in control of the situation as Yi Yang was.

  9. Thank you koala.. But noooooooooooooooooooo!!! Tong hua must stop writing these sensitive characters just to give them sad ending, I mean meng jiu, liu fu ling and now jing?? My heart can’t take it T____T

  10. Thank you Koala! I love Xiang Liu so much in this chapter! Not that I didn’t like him before, but just his appearance before her, watching her last archery lesson, quietly staring at the bow, helping her heart overcome the pain at the moment.. How can someone not like him? I feel a little sad for Zhuan Xu when he was trying to comfort XY and she talked about how she was linked to XL and wondered if their heart was also linked. It was kinda like “ouch”. But everyone tells her and she herself knows that she and XL cannot be friends. 🙁 And poor ZX has to marry a girl he doesn’t like.

    As for Jing, whenever there’s a blackout scene, I want to hope that Jing only thinks that he and YY did something but that they really didn’t do anything and that it was a plan of YY. Maybe she got pregnant from Hou and needs to cover her bases? But if that is true, then Hou’s child will be masked as the heir… Haha.. I think I watch too many dramas that I’m making things up. But still.. I am upset at Jing for being so weak here. It was his passivity that lead him to such a conclusion.

  11. My heart broke after reading this chapter.
    Xiao Yao has always been a relatable character and to see someone as free-spirited & independent as her finally find a reason to stay rooted and finally meet someone who will accept her one hundred percent for who she is and give her a reason to take a risk on trust, love, & dependence only to have it utterly & unexpectedly shattered in a blink of an eye was……..completely heartbreaking. For Xiao Yao and me. While I didn’t doubt there would be more obstacles in store for Jing & her in such a long book, this was an unexpected plot twist that was gut wrenching. I trusted in Jing to always do the right thing so I kept flipping through the pages in lightning speed hoping a carpe diem would take place and stop his wedding, but alas, no such thing happened…..
    For a girl like XY who must keep her distance from her ‘soulmate’ (XL) b/c of everyone’s disapproval & who must watch as her ‘gege’ (ZX) get married off to a new consort every month & lead a new life that doesn’t include her, watching as her only best friend/lover, Jing, ‘betray’ her was brutal.
    I don’t think I’ve ever felt so strongly about a book, in Chinese or English, or drama/movie, but somehow, this book provoked me into feeling emotions that I never thought I would even have for fictional characters! Ha.
    Big THANKS to Koala for the detailed translations & for sparking my new addiction to Chinese novels.

  12. I feel very surprised by the response in the thread to blame Jing for being betrayed by his Gramdmother and Yi Yang. Frankly if he was any less of a person he might of killed them but then he would not be the man Xiao Yao loved. Also their deaths would mean clan feuds would begin and he would be ostracized and assassinated.

    However I don’t think Jing actually slept with Yi Yang considering how he’s repressed himself all the time with Xiao Yao.

    Xiao Yao’s heart is in such pain…she’s probably going to marry someone for Zhuan Xu as a political alliance because to her Jing is the only option for love. Xiang Liu and Zhuan Xu will never be options to Xiao Yao because they cannot give her what she wants. Actually now I wonder if she will marry at all.

    There is still a third book so…I’m inclined to still hope for Xiao Yao’s happiness…though the book title is worrisome…if this ends with everyone alive and everyone in unrequited love I’d be quite sad.

    • And seriously since Jing didn’t kill Hou for what he did to him that should have already made clear the strength of his heart and character for forgiveness rather than revenge…and speaking of Hou I am now sure it’s his child because Yi Yang could have pulled this stunt years ago

  13. I feel so sad for Xiao Yao. To learn of the `betrayal’ in such a harsh way – with her having to confirm YY’s pregnancy and seeing Jing’s sad, painful, defeated expression. I am glad that XL helped ease her pain a little through their voodoo bug connection. Knowing YY’s devious, scheming ways, I am sure the spell/love portion incident and the pregnancy are not so straightforward!

  14. As the story continues, I’m more and more convinced that Xiao Yao would be the happiest with Xiang Liu. I know he promised his life to the general… but what? His promise is clear and nobody is manipulating him (not that he would allow that). Wouldn’t it be better to be a wife of a warrior who ,yes, can die in a battle, but whenever he is free he does spend his time with Xiao Yao, cares for her, tries to ease her pains and still helps her to be independent (like teaching her archery)? Plus living in a simple camp with no or little intrigues around… and being able to eat what and how she wants? ;–)

    Maybe I missed something… but why should Jing’s situation be better than Xiang Liu’s? So far Xiao Yao actually spent much more time and happiness with Xiang Liu despite his binding situation…
    And I think Xiao Yao would never feel so much pain, manipulation and betrayal if she lived with Xiang Liu (this is not meant as critique of Jing, I just see his situation and position much more complicated… though I do mind he gives promises which are too difficult for him to fulfil).

    • Xiang Liu is Zhuan Xu’s enemy. One of them is bound to kill the other. That would destroy Xiao Yao either way. So unless Xiang Liu gives up being in the Sheng Nong resistance army then he’s a no-go with Xiao Yao. Everyone around her constantly reminds her of that, and she reminds herself of that as well. It’s not that Xiang Liu might die in battle, it’s that he’s going to die at Zhuan Xu’s hands (or vice-versa). Xiao Yao’s mom was in love with someone who was her family’s political enemy, it’s too exhausting and potentially a rocks fall down ending. Jing is better because at least he’s not trying to kill Zhuan Xu.

      • A tiny little detail… which my XL-oriented selective memory refuses to accept…

  15. Thank you thank you Ms Koala! the number of times I have visited this page is embarrassing! I would have checked this page a dozen times a day until today and when I saw an update I almost cried! I really love how this novels calm and sincerely translates so well into English. Even though the wording and descriptions are simple, it all seems so much deeper because the characters have been so well fleshed out and each small move or word they say becomes so layered in meaning and care. Ahhh… So many feels I don’t know what to do with myself! I really want this to become a drama but then I just know nothing can do this novel justice ! Unless we get a magical repeat of BBJX?!?!

  16. When XY says XL will never waste money to buy her a gift, my heart stops for him!!! If only she knows!!! He’s the one who gave her that precious bow she’s using!!!

    Jing is such a nice guy it’s hard to see how things are turning out for him…………… Poor guy, that’s why you should have gotten rid of all those people when you had a chance…………..

    XL easing XY’s heartache by sharing it with her, I cannot…………. no words can explain that sort of emotional closeness.

  17. Honestly, I’m just hanging out for another scene with Xiang Liu. He is the only interest guy in this story for me.

  18. Thanks, Koala. Xiang Liu…how is it that.he is the one. ended up controlling the voodoo bugs? So many time I feel he is like a father figure to Xiao Yao. Although, Zhuan Xu is alsoprotected of Xiao Yao, he is behaving more like a big brother . Jing is the boyfriend/lover that give her a true heartburn. Love Xiao Yao has a strong appearance and loving heart. Most of the time she acts like a care giver to others, but she is also receiving a lot of love back from the people she cares for.

  19. Come on XY! U know the bow was commisioned by XL….made wt merman bones, rarest fish amethyst, seaweeds and materials no ordinary person can get. That’s why u keep on goading XL for a grad gift.coz the.romantic in u.wants to hear from the horse’s mouth *sigh* also, u saw XL wearin the.oversize.black robe the chubby cheek gurl describe the.person who commissioned the bow. Whew! Both u and XL were threading in a thin line and yet, keepin the wall for self preservation…real soulmates * double sigh * i luv ur bantering wt double edged innuendos * triple sigh, i swoon to the moon *

    As of Jing, i totally agree wt ms.koala san…why do u lack the ruthlessness and makin XY throw up wt her heartache!!! Ur all talk and wily…ur not really protecting XY and ur makin me want to Nag U to oblivion! Shame on U Jing, ur kindness indeed kills….u’ll kill all of us to boredom!

    ZX …hope u can protect XY from further pain. . .pls let XL & XY play, XL is XY’s antidote.

    To our.dearest Tong Hua, the topsy turvy angst makes us want to throttle Jing! U sure.do loves XL to the moon * endless swoon *

  20. more, more and more…i can’t stop! he he 🙂

    I wonder what did XY and XL to their day date? They’ve stayed together like a couple for 37yrs…*swoon* XL is vicious but excitingly swell…why.didn’t U and XY met earlier? She cares for u and vice versa….why cant u be a modern day drama, what if XL get XY prego as supposedly Jing did YY…and YY dies from something while XL dies from the battle…and, XY and Jing got back together wt extra baggages *wink*

    Ay! Sorry ms.k for the black robe comment….my mind is in my own lala land.

  21. Thank you so much for another chapter!!

    Ohh I absolutely love how Xiao Yao’s sadness was lessened a little because there was another heart (Xiang Liu’s) to share it with. He’s with her even if he’s far away. Xiang Liu is the best at protecting Xiao Yao… he teaches her how to use a bow, he gives her a bow, he’s the only one who can bring her back from the dead, he’s the one who helped her heartache… and he does all this knowing she’ll never be with him.

    • A father figure? One that turns her on in previous chapters & has thoughts of spending forever & eternity with him chp 17. The beauty of Tong Hua’s novel lies in observing not just what is given to us directly. If we tried reading between the lines, observing the details of what is not spoken or the character’s body language, we can see an entirely different view on the character’s relationship with others. For ex, Xiao Yao’s congealed heart. By not paying close attention, one can assume that it was Jing that was causing her heart to hurt this much. However, XY had also been heartbroken over XL, even after she had regained life, she wasn’t happy & her heart ached as her tears were falling endlessly when XL was not around when she woke up. XY was also unhappy that her father had warned her of not being with Xiang Liu, when he saw images of XL in her mirror. Therefore, her congealed heart was due to suppressing all of the pain she had been hiding inside her heart.

  22. This is one darn depressing chapter. It affected my sleep and mood for an entire day. Sigh. Tong hua, Tong hua… you’re breaking my heart all over again. To be quite honest, I don’t have a ship with any of them, I am ship Xiao Yao through and through. What hurts her hurts me too. It does not matter to me who ever she ends up with, as long as she is happy. What to say, Jing being easily tricked that way made me dislike his softheartedness. Too much gentleness is also not good. Just why can’t he more ruthless, he shoud have just killed FFYY when that happened, I can’t see my self shipping over a married man, I just can’t see it happening, not at all. Its like its already the end for Xiao Yao’s romance now that Jing is already ‘taken’. Will it all be about the power war in the next chapters from now on aside from the unrequited love left and right, front, back and center. Well, not that I will find it sad that there is no romance coming up in the next chapters, afterall, as long as she is happy, I can follow this novel happily too. I want to watch her move on and grow stronger, even stronger than before.
    I don’t have a single bit of doubt that th ebaby that FFYY is carrying is Hou’s child. Hmp. I can’t help hating Jing’s Grandmother. Pity that her gege is now going to marry. How sad… Pitiful Ah nian, pitiful Xiao Yue, pitiful Gege, pitiful Jing… had I not known beforehand that its going to be a happy ending, I would have foreseen an ending like ZYG coming up. How its not going to end up that way, that I don’t know.
    I have always been a sucker of spoilers, I could have just went ahead and read all the spoilers to satisfy my curiosity in shushenbar but I know it can only satisfy my curiosity for a second and it will totally spoil the fun of slowly eating up the turn of events, so I should endure, endure until I can no longer take it. After all, this is all the fun of following a good story, such a story as good as this is worth allllllll the wait. ^^ Time to stop wallowing now, it might be sad now but I’m sure there will be good things to foolow. I think the sole reason why I wrote this lengthy ‘essay’ is to release my sadness and frustration. If only Jing had been a man enough to grab what he wants and trumple those that hinders him, wouldn’t that have been so wonderful?

  23. Hello hello! Thanks Koala for dishing this out! Embarrassingly I was one of those who have been stalking this website for updates too kekeke, even though I’m long done with the series. So Koala, we contributed to your clicks & viewership, aren’t you happy? Please be happy!

    Ok, for those who thinks Jing is too soft and lenient, and wants be to grow balls (oy, he already have them ok). Remember that Tong Hua doesn’t create perfect men for this story. There is bound to be a flaw or 2 on our characters, even Xiao Yao herself, and we all know it correct? (For not being able to see the goodness in Xiang Liu, haha, who are we kidding?!)

    If Jing were to have any bit of cruelty in him, he wouldn’t be the Ye Shi Qi that Xiao Yao wants for life. Moreover, a man with such a trait is most unlikely to settle himself down with just a plain simple life without ambitions of any sort, and then Xiao Yao won’t get the simple boring unexciting life she so craves!

    Therefore, it is this dumb Jing that she wants, but ironically, it’s also this laidback Jing that causes all the current heartaches they are in (and more coming soon, lol!)

    AND, issn’t FFB the sexy prince charming of all fairytales? Hehe.

  24. FFB/XL!!! XY and I sure would luv to take advantage of u. . .if only *sigh*

    Pls come back dear XL and cure XY‘s heart. UR The only who totally understands our gurl. ZX is busy plotting and FL is busy wt himself, while wily Jing goes wimpy wt kindness ( but, i still luv U against all angst ).

    Pls take care of us ur dear subjects, capt. K. Thanks tons!

  25. I can’t understand why Xiao Yao doing everything but not cultivating? She say she is low power, but didn’t even think about how to make it high, she practicing archery when everyone able to produce fire and ice and another divine staff which is more useful than her archery skills.

  26. Just as my guess from beginning, Jing will not end up with XiaoYao (typical of TongHua actually ??)
    But still i pity Jing got such bad wife. I doubt the baby is really his. That biatchh had put green hat on him since long ago. Too bad his stupid grandma never know. I really wish that stupid grandma find out what that biatchh really did and be so regretful she chose such bad women for Jing

  27. The beauty of Tong Hua’s novel lies in observing not just what is given to us directly. If we tried reading between the lines, observing the details of what is not spoken or the character’s body language, we can see an entirely different view on the character’s relationship with others. For ex, Xiao Yao’s congealed heart. By not paying close attention, one can assume that it was Jing that was causing her heart to hurt this much. However, XY had also been heartbroken over XL, even after she had regained life, she wasn’t happy & her heart ached as her tears were falling endlessly when XL was not around when she woke up. XY was also unhappy that her father had warned her of not being with Xiang Liu, when he saw images of XL in her mirror. Therefore, her congealed heart was due to suppressing all of the pain she had been hiding inside her heart. For Jing, a realization that promises are not to be trusted. For XL, a love that she cannot allow herself to recognized bc of the choices XL has made for himself.

  28. Everyone is just against Jing and saying all sorts of things but if u understand his character u will like him I stand him blc he’s not someone who can give up on his family and would prefer peace over war put yourself in his shoes then u will understand what he is going through that’s the more reason xiao Yao loves him what about XL he is good to but everything he does for her is always a transaction even though we know he loves her but he can’t give her the happiness she deserves and which relationship doesn’t have ups and downs for me still jing is the best choice for her

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