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Da Mo Yao Chapter 7: Background Identity — 54 Comments

  1. This story is my obsession now. It’s nearly perfect so far. I really appreciate this translation. The setting breathes, and the characters already feel authentic and alive.

    • I also think she would make a good Li Yan! Not from her character in Gong but when she played Zhao Fei Yan in The Queens (forget the Chinese name but the lead was Yuan Li). She was stunning in that drama. Plus she’s a dancer by trade.

  2. Thank you so much for translating, I really want to hear your two cents as well, personally, I don’t think HQB really likes Ye Er just yet, he finds her interesting, sure, but not love. I also find the relationship between HQB and his aunt the empress interesting. Outward, they’re family, but HQB is no way under her control, nor does he side with her. It’s interesting to see how this relationship will work, given that historically HQB died so young, and by all accounts in the good grace of the Emperor

  3. Thanks for your hard work, koala! ๐Ÿ™‚

    I truly feel sorry for Li Yan and her past, but ultimately a person’s choice determines her own fate. Her backstory with her mother reminds me a little about 4th Prince in BBJX and his mother, and I can’t help but feel sad for both of them. In both BBJX and DMY there aren’t really any strong, positive mother figures for the main characters, but father figures are aplenty.

      • Yes I think both girls had different parents who ultimately influenced their life choices – Li Yan had a mother who pushed for her to get revenge, but Yu Er’s father wanted her to be alive and happy. So their lives turned out vastly different. Not a matter of just luck or fate.

  4. What in the world is going on now? She’s entangled herself in other people’s machinations….Tsk. Tsk.

    Fly home little birdy…fly home before it’s too late.

    I just hope she does not cause Jiu Ye any trouble. It’s a good thing he divested from her business wise. ๐Ÿ˜‰ The separation was a good move; he can still protect her if need be but she should not be so thoughtless. Or is she being selfish?

    Thanks for the chapter!

    • I don’t read Yu Er’s decision to help Li Yan as either thoughtless or selfish. It’s at most risky. Li Yan is going to get into the Palace no matter what, she’s that determined and that beautiful. Yu Er is taking no sides, and since Li Yan isn’t trying to kill the Emperor, she might as well have Li Yan owe her one for helping. In her mind she’s still trying to grow her business bigger so she can help Jiu Ye, even if he doesn’t want her help and rather she stay small and inconsequential. Ay ya, those two. Thank god Huo Qu Bing is out there questioning her every step of the way, bouncing ideas off of each other.

      • Li Yan did not state what route her ‘vengeance’ would take.

        I understand that Li Lan will go ahead with her plans anyway, but to help her is to take sides imo. I still see Jin Yu’s risk as a little selfish as she will need the aid of both men to get her out of whatever jam she gets herself into. Her abilities and reach are limited at this point and her calculations could be off. Also, she may need to walk on eggshells once Li Yan is in place or get blamed if something bad happens re Li Yan.

        Tides turn and people change, but that may not be in this novel….lol

      • I don’t see Yu Er’s action as selfish because she doesn’t ask the two guys to help her. She makes a decision and takes the consequences of it. And her decision here really is motivated by Jiu Ye in large part. He totally blames himself, but I think he’s over thinking it. The three of them are just completely entangled in a mess no matter what. Once Li Yan entered the Palace, whether through Yu Er or another channel, she is a force to be reckoned with. If Yu Er picks Jiu Ye it’ll be fine, but if Yu Er picks Huo Qu Bing, then all hell will break loose. Because Huo Qu Bing represents the Empress Wei’s side in the power struggle.

        Just my takeaway. ๐Ÿ™‚

      • I will take your word for it because I have not read this novel (not in English) and am basing my comments on what I’ve read thus far.

        Jin Yu is doing her own thing true to form, yet she will need help whether she asks for it or not. She’s willing to go with the flow of things come what may, but that’s not how life works….If people care about you and can help they often times do and at times willing to stick their necks out in the process. She knows Jiu Ye cares about her and is banking on it based on when he told her he would sell the dance houses to her, etc. Her ‘self thoughts’ told us she knows he’s an asset and in her side or back pocket.

        I do not understand this comment about Jui Ye, “He totally blames himself, but I think heโ€™s over thinking it.” I do not see a reference for this in this or prior chapters that you graciously translate for us. If it’s a reference to upcoming chapters, I look forward to the unraveling clue. ๐Ÿ™‚

    • I don’t think Jin Yu is selfish. Naive yes selfish no. All the things she do now is to help Jiu Ye. She mistakenly thought that Shi Fang (Jiu Ye’s business) is no longer as strong because of Empress Wei’s family. And she thought all of Jiu Ye’s frowns and worries are due to this. What Jin Yu wants all of this is so that as her business grows and be strong and influential is she can help Jiu Ye.

  5. Thanks for the translation… it must take a lot of effort on your part.. really appreciated…

    I am now have a better understand the background of Li Yan.. i read the chinese version and I got a little bit confuse cos my reading on simplified chinese is just not as fluent… i am looking forwards to more translation and please do take some rest.. you have been working so hard!

    i am still waiting to see who got cast to be Jiu Ye…. i am still not very sure of the idea of Hu Ge to be HQB.. i thought he is more suited to be Jiu Ye… I will be happy to see Yuan Hong or may be Huang Xiao Ming to be jiu ye but i don’t think either of them will settle to be the no 2 guy.. there are also so many other interesting characters in the book… i will wait and see the final casting…

    • Baidu fans are suddenly discussing the possibility of Xiao Wa (Wallace Chung) as Jiu Ye. o_____O Oh god no. Please don’t get a block of wood.

      I don’t think it’ll be one of the other Tangren guys, Lin Geng Xing is so NOT a Jiu Ye, and Jiang Jing Fu is an infant age-wise compared Hu Ge, whereas in the novel Jiu Ye is older than Huo Qu Bing.

      We’ll just have to wait and see who is cast. The initial rumor of HuHuoShi was on paper nearly perfect.

      • oh please no… I love Jiu ye… so i am really hoping for a good casting.. i do like Daniel Wu.. but i don’t think he will do any drama.. just my wishful thinking.. Lin Geng Xing is actually tall enough and with the age range.. but I think he is too goofy and green to be in the role of Jiu Ye…. may be should bring 8th prince back.. but i think he is a little too mature.

      • The casting should be announced anytime now. The filming has been moved back from end of Feb to early March due to Yumama poaching Wallace Huo. Director Li has announced that the new Jiu Ye is NOT a newbie and will be an experienced solid actor.

        God, if it’s Yuan Hong, I don’t know if I’ll laugh or cry. Probably laugh and then cry. T___T

    • i’m one of those who couldnt really imagine HuGe as HQB.. until i saw the stills for Sword of Heaven.. (link here: http://cfensi.dramaddicts.com/forum/blog.php/2011/07/01/scar-of-heaven-stars-chinese-paladin-3-cast-and-newcomers/#more-16718)

      nowwwww i’m sorta kinda convinced.. he’s looking really different these days compared to my memories of him as jing ge-ge in LOCH.. that 3rd and 4th picture-definitely shades of HQB there…

      ahhh when are they EVER going to release the list of names of the cast…

      • OMG, that’s hot, i mean it. that’s smoking.

        My first HuGe was also LOCH, but I went back (from the 2008 pov) and saw some of his earlier, earlier works, and i got to say he’s definitely improved loads, haven’t seen a lot of his newer dramas, but if he was improving as much from his first drama to LOCH, I think he can pull this off. Chinese Paladin had him in a similar teasing personality, though more lovable rogue kind of way.

    • Too bad it’s basically too late for Yuan Hong to be HQB ๐Ÿ™ I just got back from a LOCH marathon, with Liu Shi Shi and Yuan Hong together, and I have the BIGGEST crush on him now (he’s so hot!!). And I totally ship them as a couple, especially seeing how cute they are offscreen, haha.. And I agree, Wallace Chung as Jiu Ye = NO! gah! > < It just… doesn't.work. Oh well, I'll settle for Hu Ge and Liu Shi Shi ๐Ÿ™‚ especially after you mentioned their chemistry in Paladin(was that the one?) despite being siblings

      • By the way, does it feel like the chapters are getting shorter and shorter? I think someone mentioned that before, but I hadn’t noticed at the time, and now I’m freaking out cuz I want MOAR > < So addicted… How many chapters are in here?

  6. thank you for your hard work, it helps me to understand the story better.

    i am very confused, and it’s all my fault and my own inclinations. i thought HQB is the main male character, but Yu er is interacting a lot with Jiu Ye. although her interactions with HQB leaves a more lasting impression on my mind.

    there was no doubt that i prefer HQB to Jiu ye BUT! why is so much of the novel spent on her and Jiu ye!

    also through the comments i read from others here (who’s read further than me) it seems to suggest she’ll be with Jiu Ye…. i am not sure i can bring myself to find out. at least without knowing i can delude myself into thinking she got together with HQB…

    i think because i am overly concern with who she’ll end up with, the political intrigues at the moment is so call “slowing” me down from finding out!! urgh… i really should let go and enjoy the novel.

  7. It feels like Christmas morning when I come across another chapter posted. Thank you for ch.7. I am completely sold on all three main characters, thanks to your fine translations. Which begs the question, if the english translations are this good, what must it be like to read the novel in its original chinese language?

    I daresay, I don’t have a good feeling about JY helping Li Yan avenge her father’s death. As in “curiosity killed the cat.”

  8. “I am no gentleman and you are no lady.”

    Anyone else getting Gone with the Wind vibes? ๐Ÿ˜‰ Dashing Rhett is HQB, gentle Ashley is Jiu Ye, and vivacious Scarlett is of course Jin Yu.

    I’m still not sure I see the reasoning behind Jin Yu’s decision to help Li Yan. It seems like she’s playing with fire. Historically, Li Yan becomes a concubine of Emperor Wu and even bears him a son. So where is she going to take her vengeance? On the Wei family? Any woman who wins the Emperor’s affections is going to find herself automatically at odds with Empress Wei. Perhaps Li Yan hopes to bring the downfall of the Han conquerors by starting with the destruction of the family of the great general Wei. But then, ironically, that would also pit her against Princess Ping Yang, who is the wife of General Wei and the woman who will be bringing her into the palace.

    And what does Jin Yu get out of this? Even if she assumes that Li Yan will be lucky enough to gain the Emperor’s attention, that automatically pits her (Jin Yu) against Empress Wei, who she is well aware is the aunt of HQB. Although I guess at this point she doesn’t yet care enough about HQB to be concerned that she’ll be helping the woman who will be his aunt’s adversary in the imperial harem.

    I obviously have no brain for political intrigue.

    I do feel rather sorry for Empress who is stuck between a rock and a hard spot: To secure the Emperor’s affections, even she has to present her own husband with youthful beauties, yet the woman that she helps in this way is more likely than not to bite the hand that feeds her.

    • Hi, I have read the novel. From what I understand, Jin Yu initially helped Li Yan because
      1) She feels sorry for Li Yan’s sad background and she and Li Yan recognised a sort of kindred spirit in each other.
      2) Li Yan is determined to get inside the imperial harem. And she told Jin Yu that she wouldn’t try to kill the emperor.
      3) The main reason is I think Jin Yu wanted to grow the dancing business because she thought if she could have a outstanding enterprise, she would be able to help Meng Jiu. So if Li Yan, who is from her dancing house, can enter the imperial harem, the dancing house would be more famous and this will be good for business. *Spoiler* But as the story progresses, it is revealed that this is not what Meng Jiu wants.
      4) Jin Yu didn’t consider the consequences of her actions carefully because she is still young and had a strong desire to grow the business. Morever at that time, HQB and her wasn’t that close so she would not consider that it may bring trouble for Empress Wei.
      *Spoiler* Later Jin Yu starts to realise the consequences of her decision and what Li Yan intends to do.

    • i don’t know what Li Yan intends to do. my best guess is she’s plans for her son to inherit the throne (thereby ousting Empress Wei and her son) and stop the invasion of Xi Yu.

  9. This is getting epic! Thank you for another one of your wonderful translation. I can already see the webs that JY will entangle herself into. The whole message-passing-through-pigeons and her diary entries to Jiu Ye are so poignant and they already left a stamp in my mind – like the newly-reared bird of paradise imprinting on its master. Can’t wait to read omore. Thank you, Ms. Koala.

  10. My ideal Yu Er is actually Ady An. At least that was what immediately popped into my mind while I was reading the novel. She just looks so “Xi Yu” to me. ShiShi comes off as very “Han”. If you get what I mean. I LOVE ShiShi though & I trust her abilities so I’m sure she’ll give us a good interpretation of Yu Er.

    Hu Ge is just perfect as Xiao Huo. Yuan Hong would be nice too. But meh, like you said, it’s not going to happen. I still hope Yuan Hong participates in this day. I think he suits Yi Zhi Xie! Just saying ^^

    As for Jiu Ye… I would be disappointed if they casted Lin Geng Xin as Jiu Ye. If anything, Lin GengXin is more suited for Xiao Huo. But he doesn’t having enough acting chops for any of the lead roles yet. But I’m sure TangRen would shove him a role. Maybe as Li Yan’s brother or the Emperor? *scratches head* Wallace would actually make a good Jiu Ye. *cough* His image of White Tofu in CP3 is forever stuck in my head. One thing for sure, he looks good in white!! ๐Ÿ˜€ But when reading the novel, I imagine Jiu Ye to be Raymond Lam xD Again, not going to happen ):

  11. can’t wait for the next chapter, keep up the good work! Your translations have managed to capture the gist of the novel, written beautifully in english ๐Ÿ™‚

  12. Again and again thks a million captain K!
    When I read yr comment I have this feeling dat she will end up with Xiao Huo – I guess I’m happy either way though I’d prefer it to be Jiu Ye – there’s this calmness and protective aura abt him dat I just love …
    So – they haven’t found d make cast for Jiu Ye?
    Our Nicky Wu wud be great I think though dat wud just break my heart further if she didn’t end up w/ him! I don’t know dat many C actors so … I had a peek on Nicky Thks to u – I also love BBJX … It suits someone who doesn’t talk much n has a charisma – a bit like Chow Yun Fat – too bad he’d passed his time …
    Anyhow – waiting for chptr 8 – I kinda wish d drama wouldn’t start till we hv finished d 2 books since I enjoyed tr translation so much – dat way I get to fully compare the books w/ the drama … One can wish right ?
    Have a gud day n don’t forget to rest !! Ciao !!

    • She will end up with HQB. There’s actually lots of pretty steamy scenes between them. TBH I didn’t actually feel the steam between Nicky & LSS in BBJX TV adaptation as I imagined from the book, but they made up for it in their expression of pure adoring love ๐Ÿ˜€

  13. Thanks so much for the fast translation!! ๐Ÿ™‚ It’s getting super interesting, can’t wait to see how Jin Yu’s decision to help Li Yan will affect the future events in the novel..

  14. Hi i just started reading the novel and i’m already hooked with it. I always check f there’s a new chapter posted.
    I have just question if anyone is kind enough to answer…
    will she ever see the old family she was with when she was young? or they all die during the ambush??? how about YU Dan? and the other guy named Yi Zhi Xie, will they ever be mentioned again or it’s just part of her life growing up? no reunion in the future?
    thanks for those who are willing to answer….

  15. I have a dillemma reading this supah long story or being creative myself…time is really something we cannot turn back once we lose it it’s gone…. ๐Ÿ™ if only I can turn back time!

  16. Are they guys ever going to find out about each other? I mean, they probably are, but it’s taking quite a while. Jin Yu is into Jiu Ye at the moment, so she should kind of tell HQB that she’s not open for courtship or something? Thank you so much, I love reading this ^^

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