The second episode of tvN Sat-Sun drama Memories of Alhambra got 7.363% AGB nationwide ratings, a slight drop from the premiere episode but still very strong for a cable drama. I know folks will compare with the premiere two episodes earlier this week of the other high profile tvN drama Encounter (Boyfriend), in the Wed-Thurs slot doing over 8% in premiere and jumping to past 10% in the second episode. I see the two as colleagues rather than competitors and delivering totally different watch appeal, but it’s understandable the strong and opinionated fans of the four famous leads of those two dramas may want to stir up competition. After watching both dramas I’m more emotionally invested in Boyfriend which caught me by surprise as the synopsis was yawn inducing for me whereas Memories sounded fresh and had the two leads I loved more. So far Memories is super cool and interesting but I’m not yet emotionally connected with the leads and a tad worried that the drama will go down the convoluted rabbit hole of screenwriter Song Jae Jung‘s last drama W: Two Worlds. Comparisons aside, I love both dramas and am so thrilled with the start to great December watching season!
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Knetz are funny when bf aired some were like it boring they won't be watching the next episode just for the ratings to increase and it started receiving positive reviews from episode two. good for both shows
I’ve only caught up with memories -
Honestly i’ll Give any credit for dramas who try creatively to do different genre or style - and I like memories for that. I like the writer - even if W should have ended up more bang It was, it was a great ride esp the 1 st half - You got to give props for trying! And hopefully she tries not successfully this time because the premise for memories is a win for me! It’s an excellent concept and have potential to make this fun and great
Ep1 was wow for me - the pace slowed in Ep2 and I blame the editing. The last few minutes kick off my interest again.
Ok above is objective below are superficial but impt stuff lol
Hyun Bin - absolutely top in looks at this drama he is burning it. They have exo Chanyeol as the genius programmer (is he dead or what?) and you get those fan girls on board
Ok I roll my eyes at park shin ye I think you are bullying me and I’m crying scene- I’m not convinced by her acting at the moment but she’s likeable enough. Just hope the female lead has a better backstory at least - one is tired of candy who needs to look after her family and do 100009 jobs - I mean whey? Do we need these kind of leads?
Yeah I like that with Song Jaejung's drama you never know what you expect. It's a fun and exciting viewing experience.
She's like a double-edged sword.
She can be really good and also really bad.
I really dont understand the comparisons between the "boyfriend" drama and this "alhambra" drama or even why the "boyfriend" drama is mentioned in this post other than the purpose of starting fanwars and bringing traffic to this entry.They are not the same genre.They are not in the same time slot.The only thing they have in common is that all four leads are popular and both dramas are airing on TVN.
I am not a fan of any of the four lead actors and actresses.Il just eat my popcorn and read in amusement as the fans go at each other.But just saying, ratings are unpredictable.They can peak and dip at any point.I know the first 2 or 3 episodes make the first impression.But we have all see dramas that start with high ratings and good reviews and then descend into the abyss from mid point to the end.We have also seen dramas that people write off or just meh reaction end on high note.Anyways, will be reading with interest.
This comparison is what brings in the site traffic, my dear friend.
I wouldn't compare since the two dramas are of totally different genre. MOA is not a genre for everybody. I applaud it still for the creativity. Guess the comparison is unavoidable because of the four big names. Some fans just want to make use of the results to highlight who has stronger starpower when in fact, the ratings is more on the taste and preference of public at the moment.
Acting wise, Hyun Bin is top notch. The two female leads of both dramas are not that good. SHK and PSH doing their usual recycled expression in every dramas whereas PBG is actively doing toothpaste commercial. And comment is neutral since none of the four are my faves.
Initial ratings are definitely due to star power. Starting out at 7 and 8% is no joke; most dramas only reach that rating in its last few episodes. But the taste of the audience comes in after that.
mainly because people were comparing the two and saying Boyfriend is surely going to flop (I really don't know why anyone with any sense would think that...) while MoA would be a hit. Turns out Boyfriend is doing better so of course there's going to be some gloating.
Now you are twisting the words?
People were all saying Moa was going to flop because Hyun Bin is a flop, the genre is science fiction etc.
Boyfriend was always expected to be a success.
The fanwar was always about how Boyfriend is "cliche" and Moa is "fresh".
Actually I didn't see anyone gloat here.
Boyfriend fans are here because the author mentioned Boyfriend in the post, and consequently some commentators have said Boyfriend is cliche compared to to Moa. They came in to defend their drama, not post about how Boyfriend is better than Moa.
On the other hand I also didn't see anyone saying that Boyfriend will flop. Most people say that its guaranteed to succeed because of the pairing and the genre which appeals to audience. If anything, people are calling Moa a flop and is still calling Moa a flop.
yea i agree from the start people predicted that boyfriend will be a hit because of its noona romance story and ofcourse its lead SHK and PBG while MOA will flop because of its not so light story and HB but i see the ratings are only based on Korean viewers while for international views MOA is trending as well especially in sites like kissasian and its popular list on Netflix so more international fans were getting hook to MOA. and thats for sure is not a flop in my opinion.
Actually even if you just base it on Korean viewers its not a flop either. Korean media are saying its unexpectedly doing quite well despite its challenging genre. 7+% is also above average for cable.
Moa was always expected to be a hit internationally because of its genre and hallyu leads, which was why they sold it to Netflix.
I think people are dubious whether it will succeed in Korea - some think it will because leads are famous and some think it won't because MBC tried a similar variety program but it flopped. So it was a pleasant surprise when it premiered at 7%. There are articles praising Moa here.
http://english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2018/12/04/2018120401368.html
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/art/2018/12/688_259744.html
Didn't think I will like encounter but ended up loving it. Btw this post is going to create fanwars
Me too. I was never a fan of PBG, but gotta admit he sold me on this one. This drama looked like such a cliche drama, and actually it is, but somehow the script kept me smiling. I think what I liked about the main leads is there was no fighting or bickering like usual rom-coms. It was refreshing to see 2 people meet and just are kind to each other. That and talented acting really drew me in. No gimmicks or special effects needed.
PSH screen time is not enough.anyways loving both shows especially boyfriend to my surprise
MOA is more my type of genre and so far I am very interested in the story and the special effects than the leads (although I must admit HB is very attractive, and PSH is kinda there but not that important yet). Also I swear some parts must be filmed in Venice, the door of Bonita Hotel (especially the big round brass door knob) is totally the style of old Venice apartment buildings, even the staircases, and all the side streets around the hotel look so familiar, it brings back very fond personal memories. Boyfriend is more appealing to the general audience in particular the ajhumma fans, but the mothers are annoying... so it is not as entertaining to me than like playing a virtual game. It is still early to decide which drama is better but I think ratings should be higher with Boyfriend because not everyone can understand the gaming factor of MOA. Just my opinion.
I prefer MOA for now. Boyfriend feels too cliche and I don't quite like the acting of both leads. When SHK asking PBG whom did he called at 12.20pm, I was ready to throw something at the screen. As for MOA, sorry but PSH acting is bothersome. I am watching for now for the creative plot. Let's hope it won't go down the W route.
PSH does not have much screentime yet, hope she stays this way, 20% time per episode is enough ?. I am more intrigued by the second male lead (sorry don’t know his name), he looks like a good actor and will show great rivalry with HB character. Hope this drama won’t go down the W route too ?
I agree with you. Boyfriend is cliche, cliche and cliche. Jumping the bandwagon a bit following Pretty Nuna Buy Me Food. It's almost like someone suddenly said hey lets put SHK and PBG and write a script rather than the other way round. Also cliche acting from SHK ... butter wouldn't melt in my mouth acting. I like to see her in a more challenging role. I still think W was very refreshing. I don't think the concept had ever been tried.
@candycane Come on, the lead actress needs way more than 20% time per episode
There isn't much of her to judge quite yet and i guess there are a lot of potential, i hope they can use her since is a waste how kdramaland always misused actresses.
@Leh, hahaha... I am just saying since a lot of people has been commenting on her acting. I am a bit irritated by her crying too... I agree it is too early to judge her. Let's wait and see how her performance will take off. The writer's previous drama W totally ruined the lead actress character, I just don't want to see history to repeat itself. I still don't have much faith in this writer both in story consistency and actress development. Although I am very much enjoying the first 2 episodes, I am sitting on the fence on future execution of this drama.
saying that only ahjumma watch boyfriend is such an understatement for the '20s and 30's demography that actually enjoy it,
boyfriend sells their character and how this world make everything sensationalised.
Also the main lead is a politician daughter who may become a president's daugther, was married to a chaebol, get cheated on and divorced, get alimony a hotel that becomes successful yet keep coming to her ex-MIL birthday party is already huge story that will involve opportunistic mother and conglomerate, honestly actually a real background that fits into the story, not just somehow an older woman.
People around me say that if you ever fall to a younger guy, that's will make it magical because you see all the life she/he emerged, love it and it makes you happy.
You can praise Alhambra all you want but dismissing Boyfriend as Ahjumma taste is huge understatement of the actors' chemistry that sold the show.
It demographic are the same tho on naver
@Munlight : that means MoA is also back up by ahjumma, what a shock
I am saying that simply said boyfriend huge because of ahjumma makes it sounds like it has no merit when it has good production and excellent chemistry, execution is almost everything these days and they did it well.
Just because MoA dipped in rating doesn't mean other's that jump in rating is bad or because of "fanbase".
Probably it just like what other said, it's not that good in ep 2
@peon yes am supporting you the reply was not meant for you
@Poen - I hope you were not replying to me, but sounds like you are and you are WRONG! I wrote "Boyfriend is more appealing to the general audience in particular the ajhumma fans". Who says "only ahjumma watch boyfriend"? You wrote a big long paragraph to show your illiteracy and to stir up a fan war or what? Stop barking up the wrong tree crazy dog!!
You can praise Boyfriend all you want but accusing me of saying something I don't write is a hugh offense to me. Move!
@candycane your reply seems so off.
I am saying that take boyfriend out of this, just praise alhambra all you want, stop the fanwar by not mentioning other drama. Stop trying to get your way out by not understanding that "particular ahjumma fans" term isn't shades for the genre that ahjumma likes, you really don't need to say that "ahjumma makes it big" when ahjumma also a particular watcher for Alhambra.
also poor an illiterate me
@Poen - you are the one replying to me first. The blogger mentions the two dramas in her article, read carefully before you tell everyone to remove BF out of their comments. I am not the only one mentioning BF here and my comment was not even negative. Fanwar is not started by me, it starts when illiterate fan like you trying to be defensive and not allowing free speech to express different opinions. Too bad if you don't like me mentioning "ajhummas" in my comment, did it hit a sore knuckle of yours? Ajhummas are everywhere, why can't I mention a general term? You shouldn't tell me what not to say because I find this very offensive. It is much better if you leave me alone.
I love the first episodes! It's so refreshing to have a new story. I'm not a gamer so all is new for me. Hyun Bin looks pretty good in the role. Park Shin Hye is less interesting but because of character. She did nothing until now and she's a hard working person but cries very easily, it's kind of weird. I hope she will have a better story.
Honestly I didn't think it would have good ratings because even if there are famous actors, the story and the time slot are not appealing for Koreans. So I'm happy for them :)
the timeslot?its 9pm kst on weekends, thats the time people are infront of the tv.
I don't think the young koreans are in front of their TV a Saturday night. It's always the family dramas that won the ratings "war" the weekends. And the plot is more for young people
Will wait until MOA finally finished airing all it's episodes to come by again. All these comparisons and fan war are too childish and pathetic. Too many weird peoples in this drama land world. Anyway happy for the well received rating for Hyun Bin and Park Shin Hye and the whole team.
Am loving encounter so far kept on smiling through out. I think they both have equal ground given that moa is a weekend drama but not a public friendly genre and bf being on non weekends but more public friendly.
this is the list of most buzzworthy drama
1. Encounter
2. Sky Castle
3. MOA
Actor:
1. Park Bogum
2. Song Hyekyo
3. Hyunbin
Even Sky castle higher then MOA. lol
I watched eps 1, and felt so cringe. its like watching an ahjussi playing VR games. and eps 2 not helping at all, boring. Plus PSH's voice is so annoying. whats wrong with her, I think she's better in doctor
Who set this list? You? LOL. As I have said, MOA is not the genre for everyone. No need to compare dramas of different genres. It's like comparing classical opera to K-pop, does this make any sense?
lmfao u can find it in soompi. this is the title "encounter" Tops Ranking Of Buzzworrthy Dramas and Actors. Like it or not, people will comparing them.
I don’t read soompi. It’s a waste of my time to read uneducated people blabbing there.... Dumb people compare. I know what I like even though it’s not popular to the general public ?
She was actually referring to a Soompi article:
“On December 3, the Good Data Corporation revealed the rankings of the most buzzworthy dramas and cast members from November 26 through December 2. The results are based on the analysis of reactions on 34 dramas through news articles, blog posts, online communities, social media, and video clip view counts.”
...not ‘uneducated people blabbing’ or ‘dumb people compare’. But then, you know what you like.
Lol you're too old school dear and still live in the old days. Nowadays man in their mid 30s play more video games than the youngster so cope with it. Some fans here are being butthurt because they felt the need to give attention to their bias by taking down on another productionand actors. Leam approach because like it or not MOA is still an entertaining drama at the end of the days to those that enjoy it's genre. LMAO I've watched both dramas and they have nothing in common so what is there to compare. Let me quess oh it's stars power...please how ignorant.
I don't enjoy the other drama much but as for respect to everyone who have taken part and the production team no need to start all these craps. But hey it won't be Korean drama and it won't be entertaining if you don't have dump people like this to promote their bias drama. Waiting to read more from these proud fans. Go MOA the old ahjussi and the untalented boring Park Shin Hye.
Wow if you mean ahjussi = Hyun Bin
He looks mightily fine in this role - what’s with the hate!
*roll eyes*
This girl is funny for wanted to show everyone Hyun Bin and MOA is below her bias. Such proud fan. ?Hyun Bin is old ajusshi but is still a fine man who can do almost anything in the acting world so it's no shame at all if he's below or in the higher rank.? A talented actor will always be a talented actor. Song Hye Kyo is one of my bias but I don't dear to compare her to any other actors out there because she usually recycled her performance so not too proud here.
You don't even sound like her fan. Try harder.
@sunshine Sorry I don't need to explain my reasons if I'm a die heart fan of Kyo or not. All I know is I like her and has been a fan sense AIMH. I'm not the kind to praise or compete my favorite with other actors that I see is really a capable actor if i know my bias have flaws.
As if hyun bin isn't playing a CEO for tenth time.
@Facts "I don't dare to compare her to any other actors because she usually recycled her performance." What made you day this? Did you see anyone praising her for being more talented than the others?
*say
lol,did she say her bias, u are the one assuming things just coz she post the drama brand reputation, where in her post she is said shk is her bias, i like shk my foot, she bash hb and psh but she never said she like shk or bf drama, go read again,asumera k day
Okay enough with this, my apologies for even mentioning Kyo and my opinion.? Hoping to see both dramas reach maximum peak.
Ups your the funny one here, you just called him old ahjussi. Lol. And no, SHK not my bias
Weird, I become hater now? But actually he really ahjussi, and yeah he just playing game in that drama, thats why I called it boring. Too many salty people in here, I wonder why.