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Yun Zhong Ge Chapter 8: A Pair of Persons — 55 Comments

  1. ahh they finally meet XiaoFeng, Uncle Feng! This scene really made me feel choked up with what was going on between the lines. Seeing MengJue and YunGe together like that, was reminiscient of what could’ve been a generation earlier. XiaoFeng had been witness to it all, from the very beginning, through every heartbreak, the parting, and then the aftermath of MJ leaving it all behind. I can’t imagine what he must be feeling, to see JinYu’s little girl holding MengJue’s hand and the gold and silver flowers insignia, so representative of JY and MJ’s love, in her hair.

    Maybe cos i haven’t read to the second volume with LingGeGe, the scene where he was eating the food she cooked didn’t really affect me other than the sentiment of the scene being an extreme case of ‘so near yet so far’…. and yet feeling secretly happy that they are not meeting yet because MengJue would have YunGe’s attention for awhile longer. Maybe I’ll regret it come volume two, but now, despite knowing how even that meeting with XiaoFeng was orchestrated down to the point of him presenting her with the gift of the hairpin, I’m still utterly infatuated with MengJue’s character. You mentioned somewhere earlier that MengJue is probably TH’s most well-fleshed out character… and I can’t help but agree. She gives us all this backstory and motivations as the story rolls along, yet we sense that she is still holding back… enough for him to remain such an enigma. While I would dearly love a HQB in my life, MengJue is so hard to love because he’s not perfect. Yet despite all these warts, I still find myself irrevocably attracted. My heart aches for the poor man…

  2. Meng Jue and Ling gege in one room together! After reading the dinner scene, I get why Ling gege and Yun Ge are soulmates. They get each other.

    I hated the scene with on the street when Meng Jue totally ignores Yun Ge. He’s gonna be sorry later for that!

    And Uncle Feng! I wonder if he knows her identity or if he just has a suspicion of who she is?

  3. Please tell me at least SOMEONE gets a happy ending in this book. My heart is already hurting thinking something will happen to them…
    I’m starting to understand what you meant when you said you didn’t love this book (I’m guessing that’s because of the ending) but couldn’t forget it… I know, who could forget this characters?? We’re only on chapter 8 and I already don’t want the book to end, I don’t want to say goodbye to them.
    For me, that’s the meaning of a great book.

  4. I’m really getting into this novel now, which is good, but bad at the same time, because I can’t read chinese, and if you ever decide to drop it, I might have no other choice beside the HORRIBLE google translator. 🙁 lol

    Just like you said, the part about the meal really made me twist in a knot. SO CLOSE, YET SO FAR!!!!! I wonder how and when he’ll find out that’s she’s there and that she had mistaken him for Liu Bing Yi. 🙁

    Then, when Meng Jui suggested seeing an elder, I thought, maybe, just maybe, I’ll see my Jiu Ye, but sadly, it’s Uncle Feng. He’s the first character (beside HQB’s short appearance) to appear from DMY. I keep wondering, will Jiu Ye appear in this novel at all… and not just through the thoughts or words of other, but as in appearance as Uncle Feng in this one?

    Anyway, thanks so much for translating. Dying for the next chapter, when you can! 😀

    • Well, I take back what I said… Uncle Feng wasn’t the first from DMY to appear. Lol, but he was the first from Jiu Ye’s side to appear. Lol. As you can see, I’m still Jiu Ye biased.

  5. I haven’t commented on any of the YZG posts, but I’m seriously loving these chapters! If anything, I seem to be in the minority which is exactly more excited for your Yun Zhong Ge updates than for Da Mo Yao. I still love DMY, but it’s just not as compelling a story for me. YZG’s every word sucks me in and is just plain beautiful.

    I don’t adore Yun Ge the way I do Jin Yu, but I still really like her. She’s just bubbly and full of life. I still prefer her model, Guo Xiang, to her, but I don’t dislike her at all. And I’m totally anticipating more Ling Gege!!!

    Your casts are perfect btw. I think I enjoyed DMY a lot more before the official drama stuff came out. I’m loving this dream cast to the max and can imagine all the characters fitting these actors perfectly.

    • You are not alone. I’m liking YZG much more over DMY. DMY seems to be in black and white while there are so many layers, overtones to YGZ. HQB and JY seems one dimensional compared to the characters here – HQB is glorious, beautiful with WINNER in capital letters while Jiu Ye is sad, sad, sad and LOSER in capital letters.

      There is so much more in each character in this book and the peeling away of the layers is intriguing. So much is shrouded in mystery and I find myself held hostage by the book.

      I hope I never have to rely on Goggle translate for any chapter in this book.

      • Regarding your winner/loser statement….
        If two people were racing in a race and one person cheated all the way to the finished line, does that make him a winner? And if the other person dropped out of the race and helped another person win the race, does that make him a loser?

  6. just WOW….

    Really awesome
    The intro made me so exited…
    Loved it…
    I dont know but there is somthing about MJ i dont get….but ling ge ge he’s reallyy ..,.
    what to say.lovely awesome..love him,,,,
    Thanks

  7. Tong hua is so brilliant. Setting up the scene such that you would think that meng jue brought his gf home but when you read it again, you realize, hey he was making use of her! It is amazing how you feel the irony of the 2 of them holding hands like meng jiu andjin yu. The what if situation. It is so bittersweet. If u didn’t read da mo yao, you wouldn’t understand how xiao feng felt

  8. Koala, reading this seems like I’m falling deeper and deeper into the abyss. I really see what you mean about YZG being Tong Hua’s masterpiece. And why, oh why, is Meng Jue so compelling? I want to love him a little less so I can also give Ling gege a chance but Meng Jue is making it impossible for me to do that. That part where his expression darkened when Yun Ge talked about giving her pearl embroidered shoe, I just wanted to give him a hug. Perhaps because he’s so hard to figure out and he seems so self-assured that when we see glimpses of his vulnerability, its really hard not to fall for him.

    Ahh..please tell me there is some happiness in this novel because I can already see how the sadness will seep into my real life, just like what happened when BBJX ended. 🙁

  9. This chapter sees more convergence between DMY and YZG. Really love the way the writer threads the two stories together so well. Thanks for your translation!

  10. Dear msWonderK,

    i wake up in a Sunday morning with a best gift of Ling GeGe and YG’s pearl embroidered shoe. It is indeed so far and yet so near *sigh*

    Thank U Luv *xoxo*

  11. My guts are really telling me….MJ is the other boy YG gave her pearl encrusted shoes. MJ knows the emperor is the Liu person YG is looking for and see herself engaged with. MJ you are bad and practical so unlike your adoptive father…. as the plot thickens very interestingly.

    DMY is a great prelude to YZG….we’re still dying to know how it ends.

    Tong Hua…you’re a young and modern writer who still understand the Traditional ways. I really hope and wish there’ll be english version of all of your books.

  12. Koala, thx for the translation.

    I might be a minority here but I do not feel anything toward Meng Jue. So far, I get the impression he’s a calculating and manipulative person. Each of his action is somehow a calculated move.

    I just can’t wait for volume 2 where Ling gege finally meet Yun Ge.

    • Great to find someone who feels the same way I do! Everyone else seems so enamored of meng jue! His love for YG is “tainted” by his manipulative and calculative nature and self-serving motivations–it pales in comparison to Ling Gege’s pure and steadfast love for her.

      • Meng Jue’s manipulation and calculations are pretty understandable though. *spoiler* His parents and his little brother was killed to protect Liu Xun. His mother’s last words to him were to take revenge for me. He is fulfilling his mother’s dying wish, that is partially the reason why he is tempted by the Huo family’s power and manipulating Yun Ge. But he really does love her.

    • I felt the same way. It’s hard to ship MJ n YG at this point since MJ is not really sincere towards YG. This chapter excites me. Even though the adult LGG made appearance for the second time, I felt his presence…. Mysteriously electrifying. Lol dun know why I feel this way, I guess it’s due to their soul communication is poignant n unique. They seem to be able to understand each other.

      • I think that because ms. koala casted Yuan Hong as Meng Jue, I can’t resist but support this ship. If it was any other person, i’ll have to think twice.

        I could see from a logical perspective, Meng Jue feeling toward Yun Ge is quite shallow compare to Ling Ge Ge. But I think MJ also have the appeal of the ‘bad boy’. The guy that you least expect to fall for someone – it becomes a big deal with he ‘accidentally’ fall for the heroine.

      • MJ is a very complex character, so his love for her might not seem sincere now in volume 1… but this is just the beginning. This guy is way too complex for us to get all his actions right away. The clearest thing about him to me is probably his love for YG, which is 1000xxxx % sincere, and it goes way back too, just like Ling gege.

      • I am not sure if meng jue’s “love” for YG at this point can be said to go way back like Ling gege’s. later in the story (this is abit spoilery) YG realises that even from the get-go in chang-an, meng jue’s actions with regards to her have been carefully planned and executed in a cold blooded way. She was “played” by a master. So I cannot be convinced he really loves her at this point. Maybe later the “love” part comes along…by which time….its Ling gege’s turn

  13. I just thought how jiu ye gave yu Jin the wedding dress but never seen her in it. And now his adopted son helped her daughter built a name as a great chef but can’t taste the food. Is this what they call fate?

    • i also wonder why MJ cant taste YG’s food? what’s wrong with him? something wrong with his taste bud? people who like heavy flavored food like salty ones were sick of hepatitis?……just wondering 🙂

      • i don’t know if that’s true or not, but my interpretation from the chapter is that Meng Jue does not get the meaning behind her cooking, therefore he was just eating it and appreciating it for its value.

        Xu Ping Jun told Yun Ge to just cook like she is cooking for the person she is thinking of which happens to be the Emperor, her Ling gege. Those dishes and poem were meant for Ling gege. Because they have the same feelings for each other, Ling gege knew the meanings behind those dishes and poem meant, but not Meng Jue.

      • Meng Jue cannot taste food. It’s been hinted at since chapter 5, when he ate half the plate of unsoaked bitter vegetables without noticing it was bitter. Da Gong Zhi clearly knows it since he jumped in quickly to cover for Xiao Jue, saying he eats heavy foods.

        Yun Ge now knows as well, hence her shock and how quickly she invited Meng Jue to have dinner with them. Yun Ge’s dishes may have special meaning for Liu Fu Ling, but in truth, it has the exact same special meaning for Meng Jue…..if he could taste it.

        Both he and Ling gege each has her embroidered shoe, they each have been pining for her since that day nine years ago. If anything, they are flip sides if the exact same coin. If Meng Jue could taste the food, with his intelligence and the fact that he has been pining for Yun Ge as well, he would have understood her dishes.

        The way he described the food to Yun Ge wasn’t in any way merely appreciating its value. The first few dishes didn’t taste good at all! It was bitter, and dry, etc. It meant to signify sorrow and parting. The meal was exquisite because of its underlying meaning, not because the food tasted good.

        Yun Ge realized it right away that Meng Jue was merely reciting things he learned to describe food as if he tasted it. You’ll find out later why he can’t taste food.

      • Lol, my mind is running with wild theories on why he can’t taste food.
        Could it be because when he was a beggar, bad people cut his tongue and Jiu Ye nursed him back and adopted him ? Alas, he lost his tasting abilities.

  14. Since day one, i have been warn that MJ is a complicated guy and multi-layered. I could see from past chapters that he’s calculating, but this is the chapter that really convinced me. I could see that he’s not the type that is straight up calculating, but he is not all about romance either. So his actions always make u think if he’s doing it to serve his purpose, or if he’s doing it for the other person. I think in this chapter, he meant both when he give Yun Ge the hairpin. But with him we’ll never know, and all we have our speculation.

    In the beginning, i really like Yun Ge’s carefree nature, but at this point, i really wish she’s more perceptive. Although she was sheltered since young, but she did go places and meet many people- she at least have to develop some smarts right? it’s getting hard to see how yun ge is innocently swift off her feet by MJ’s actions without any doubts. for me, it would be more interesting that she see the other side of MJ or suspects it but can’;t help but falling for his twisted way anyway.

  15. Meng Jue is so calculative in this chapter. There is also a bit of dark humor here no? I can almost hear his thots when he heard about her giving away a pearl-embroidered shoe. It is like “what?! You mean I’m not the only sucker who got your shoe? I hope for my scheming sake that you have a tiny shoe closet. How many glass slipper have you given out? Where r all these other competitors?”

    • lolz! I really think….MJ is the one who asked for YG’s hands for marriage to her parents …..to get rid of the other person who got her shoes. Guess, he knows she’s only wearing one shoe on that day nine years ago 🙂

  16. Thanks for the spoilers msWonderK…now it rests my restless mind 🙂

    i still have some unanswered Q’s in my mind…but, id rather wait and read along as the chapter goes……

  17. Thank you, Ms. K!

    So Uncle has deduced Yun Ge’s parentage. What was it iniatially about Yun Ge that Uncle began to suspect who Yun Ge was, the name of her eldest brother, her looks?

    Again, this chapter was a wonderful read with all the little undercurrents beneath the surface. The breadth and depth of the characters and their subplots in YZG reminds me of a Charles Dickens novel.

  18. Thank you Ms koala for drawing us into this amazing story.

    Does LFL know who YG is after the meal? Since one of the clues was “green woven skirt”?
    He should have guessed who she is right?

    • Ling gege read the poem about the green woven skirt in response to Yun Ge’s poem for that dish. She did not mention it, he did. Ergo, he wouldn’t realize it was her because that was his poem in response to hers.

  19. Sounds like Meng Jue knows about Yun Ge’s parentage too then? That’s why he brought Yun Ge with him to meet his uncle? Wow, Yun Ge herself doesn’t even know her parents history, but Meng Jue knows???!!!! One complicated guy he is……………..

    The problem with your casting is I just keep imagining Roy Qiu eating those dishes, and I cannot stop squealing…….. 🙂

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