Alleged Victim A Releases Full Kakao Text Conversation with K in the Park Shi Hoo Case

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• wow!!! this whole case is a big fiasco. hope and pray the truth comes out of all these. the media is way too involved.

  • I think it’s important to sort out what happened on Feb 15. I’m trying to list the things we know by time sequence, please correct me if it’s not right or fill up the gap if you know more.

    1-2am P/K/A entered P’s apartment

    9am K left for home

    2pm A left for home

    3:47~4:15pm The above text message between A and K

    (A and B text messages, but no time indicated)

    8:30pm B texted A suggesting A to meet with P’s former agency

    9pm A went to service center for sexual assault and social worker took her to the police station

    (other than the text messages, the time is approximately rounded according to reports by the media. for reference only)

    • Ok, is everyone reading the same text messages that I'am lol it reads like they were all into having a good time and made some ducked up decisions. Seriously. It's already been proven she was not unconscious when she entered the apartment, she was not under the influence of narcotics either.

      It reads like she's ashamed- she was into K by stating that she was drinking for him/with him. The night got rowdy-meaning they were all a drunk mess. At some point of her drunken stupor she ends up sleeping with PSH instead of with K in the living room.

      They were jamming out people-all three of them! She just doesn't like it that K didn't want or see her as something serious- I mean the guy is seriously telling her that they will play later because they were planning to go to the club.

      All this proves by her stating it was a mistake is that she felt ashamed of her actions. That means she is aware of them-if it was rape would she talk in such a manner with her Oppa.

      Please people, even reading it in monotone. It comes across as a girl that was upset of having a one night stand and her crush catching her in the act.

    • Yes. the same text messages, you read it, I read it, she reads it, ... ten people may have ten different ways of reading it, and ten different interpretations, especially with so many exclamation words, and TTTs.

      Thanks to Asaiyet, now I know Ts are emotion symbols for sobbing, as the horizontal stroke represents eyes and vertical stroke tears. There are about twenty of Ts in A's messages.

      Whatever the interpretation form this blog is almost irrelevant, as the police stated previously, it only serves as reference.

      It's sadly amusing that a rape allegation became public discussion topic and the development of this case is very K-drama like, but with broken logic and away from common sense.

      By now, I am used to expect the unexpected.

    • By now, I am used to expecting the unexpected.

  • It looks that A initially had some crush on K (it was Valentine's night) but ended up in bed with P. She was not sober most of the time during that day.

    When she had this conversation with K around 4pm, she was still quite confused. I guess what K said about sleeping together etc. woke her up and made her realize that K didn’t care about her.

    Then she started trying to figure out what went on really. So she talked to her friend B. According to A’s lawyer, the first text message A sent to B said: “I was raped by P and K.” (time unknown) By 9pm, she went to the service center for help and ended by reporting to the police.

    It sounds reasonable to me that she took some time to sober up and to process all these confusing information/images and to make a decision to search for help.

    • I agree with the last paragraph. She was probably under the influence of the drugs she was given when she wrote these.

      The way I understand is that she had a crush on K and thought they'll hang out in PSH's apartment. SHe was surprised when she woke up and find herself in bed with PSH. K seems nasty (mentioning her body, which I think supports her claims that he molested her) and I think that this girl is the real deal. She would have planned the whole thing a lot better if she intended to black mail. And sh went to get help as soon as her head is clear.

• Ok. This is friggin hilarious. So now they were all drunk- so they stayed partying in PSH house drinking like fishes. She passed out and woke up in dudes bed.

  Seriously! Didn't her first testimony state that she was un the car and then woke up in dudes car?????

  they all need to get their story straight lol

  • She was already passed out when she was carried to PSH condo not unless she sobered up and then drink again.

    • Honey she walked out of the car on her own and was lucid during the piggy back session. The second cctv image from the car park proved that. Plus the text message proves she was aware of her actions-because she is acting like she's ashamed of what she has done thus it was a mistake. People don't blame themselves for rape.

    • @michelle, you will not believe the number of girls/women who blame themselves for being raped. In fact there are very few people who are strong enough to realize that it's not thier fault.

• Ok, stupid me, what does the TT mean? These tapes are skeevey.

  Was K planning on getting into bed with A and P, but the bed was too small? So, does that mean someone had planned on a threesome?

  And what does K mean by "and your figure is totally I was really surprised."

  K is sounding more and more like a pimp, skeevey bastard.

  • TT it's like a emoticon for crying; the sticks are suppose to be like 2 streams of tears so basically TT = :'(

    • Thanks Tina. This is such a sordid mess.

    • lol its actually kekekeke which is the equivalent of lol

  • TT is an emoticon and represents "sobbing" , the upper parts of the Ts being the eyes and the rest being the tears.

    A's rexts give the impression that of not having processed what had happened yet. I guess she was trying to make things out. K on the other hand sounds very suspicious and sleazy as you said. His shadiness casts doubt on Psh as well. What the hell happened that night!?

    • Yes. Her confusion about waking up with PSH and K asking if it should have been him? And then the remark about the bed being too small or he would have slept with them? WTH?!!

    • Asabiyet, thanks for explaining what Ts are.

      I agree with you. I guess she was still very confused at the time when the text messages exchanged. I think what K said to her made her think. And 4+ hours later she arrived in the police station.

• The old saying applies in this case: TRUTH IS STRANGER THAN FICTION.

  LOL!

  • So true!

• The absurdity of the background, emoticons an "keke" are in sharp contrast with the seriousness of the conversation.

  "K: I was going to sleep with you guys but the bed was too small, so I just came out into the living room
  A: Darn!! ㅜㅜㅜㅜㅜㅜ Ah ah it was something totally unexpected keke… whew"

  What is she Darn!!ing about and what is she keke'ing about?
  I am confused.

  • This!!! Darn as in she would have liked to wake up beside him? And since when did unexpectedly waking up beside a guy become a lol worthy statement? All around madness

• She was F_ without knowing, , bad bad PSH, he's the only one who knows it was consensual sex. "A: I usually don’t drink ㅜㅜ but I drank yesterday because of you!!! isn't it telling , our girls should be very careful drinking and especially with the people they drink with. Well, it would have been the best if not to drink at all, just sayin' for preventive purposes. But rights are rights , right?

  PSH, many girls are fantasizing about you ( including me, sometimes,) why do you have to umph a drank or an unconscious woman. Aaa, the downfall of man is that boneless thing between their legs.

  • Apparently, PSH was the only one willing. PSH clearly didnt notice that she was already passed out. Dunno why he didnt join K in the living room to sleep.

  • I remember earlier where A claimed that PSH and K kept encouraging her to drink? in this text, she specifically blamed K for making her drink so much as she usually doesn't drink. This particular text statement is consistent with her earlier claim that PSH and K encouraged her to drink a lot.

    Here's what I think
    1. A woke up next to PSH. A liked K, hoping to perhaps hook up with K but ended up in bed "naked" next to PSH. Maybe the reason she even went to the bar because of her feeling for K and even asked him to carry her in the parking lot.

    2. She left PSH's house all confused but blamed herself as a mistake, due to heavy drinking. It bothered her so much that she told her friend B and even insinuate in her text with K. It's clear to me that had it been K the one who slept with her, she wouldn't cry raping. But because it was with PSH and she wasn't interested in him, she cried raping.

    3. She told B about what happened, B told a CEO of an agency who is close with PSH's former agency "Eyagi" Because PSH's former agency hold a grudge against PSH, they used A to take revenge by talking her into reporting the case to police and convincing her that she might have been raped. She and the CEO went to the police together.

    It now appears that PSH and A made a mistake as a result of heavy drinking. Her not remembering what happened made her believe that sex occurred without her consent. Both were at fault, but the mastermind of all is actually EYAGI.

    A appears to be naive and young. Had EYAGI and the other CEO didn't convince her to report, she might have kept it quiet.
    Based on the text, in my opinion A doesn't sound like a slut like many accused her of. She even said herself that she doesn't normally drink and commented on "the biggest mistake of my life". I think she just made poor choices that day. It doesn't reflect her typical behavior or at least appears that way based on the text.

    PSH - he should have known better! he took advantage of the drunk girl but again he was probably drunk himself. Two drunk people together do stupid things. I guess he didn't satisfy her, as such she regretted it.
    Having one night stand with the person you like is not a mistake. but having a one night stand with someone you don't like = sexual assault. See the thin line?. From the text transcript, she sounded like she wanted to be with K.

    Eyagi - is certainly the puppet master behind the lawsuit. They manipulated A to ruin PSH's life. I now understand why PSH is suing EYAGI too.

    There's a missing text that is not shown here at Ockoala site. It started with "A: I am sorry I couldn't protect you (K)".

    • this is a nice reasoning. If this is really true, poor PSH, because of that one night stand with a very drunk girl giving in to his earthly desires, career gone.

    • First of all, i'd like to say that i'm not a PSH fan, in cas what I write gets mistaken.
      I think A sounds like a person with loose morals. First, she claimed that she had not drunk more than a bottle of soju. But in this convo with K, it's very obvious that she had drunk quite a bit.
      Secondly, for a person who wakes up naked in bed with a man who seemed to have raped her, she is does not seem traumatised or upset! Some of u claim that she may have woken up still groggy, but if she was groggy, how could she have such a long convo with K? The fact that she had 'TT' and 'keke' in her messages show that she was not affected at all by what had happened to her. At the most, she was just confused as to why it was PSH and not K in bed with her.
      When K alluded to seeing her naked body, she was even able to ask him if he was making fun of her! AND she had 'keke' typed out. This means that she found it rather funny. The 'TT' was like a flippant, 'boo hoo, u saw me naked' comment. She definitely didn't seem upset or traumatised. In fact, from reading the text, it seems as if this waking up in bed naked with someone is quite a common thing with her.
      I mean, come on, if I were to have drinks with 2 men, and woke up naked in bed with one of them, I would be freaked out!!!! I wouldn't be sms-ing with the other person and keke-ing and TT-ing all over the place. I would be crying and running out of the place asap. Moreover, if I had confronted the other person, i would be yelling for an explanation! I would be distraught! All she could write was, " it was totally unexpected" and even added a keke!!!!! "Keke" is an onomopaeia for a giggle. You find yourself naked in bed with a man, and all you can say is that it was totally unexpected? And giggled too?????? This conversation sounds flirty & casual (on both sides).

      What i think happened was that she found herself in bed with PSH, and probably didn't think much about it. K could have then asked her to use it for her benefit, or she herself could have gone to the ex-manager and told him what had happened and then was encouraged to cry rape! I believe that when PSH went to meet her later, he was actually confused and wondered what she wanted. Yes, he probably made the huge mistake of sleeping with her while she was drunk, (who knows, she could have said yes in her drunken state, but was not aware that she had), but was probably confused with her accusations cos she probably didn't act flustered or upset when she left his apartment. That's why he thought it was consensual.

      K is certainly a sleazeball. What kind of a friend would take a girl drinking and let another man sleep with her while she was drunk? And even look at her naked body, AND comment that he had??? By the way, the fact that A didn't even feel shy that K had seen her naked body says A LOT!!!! The fact that he could EVEN mention it to her shows that he knows she won't mind, and that he knows she's rather loose. Which one of you ladies out there would not freak out if a guy friend of yours told you that he had seen your naked body after you asked him how you ended up naked in bed with another man?

    • In addition to what I had already written, the fact the K could so openly say to A that he wanted to JOIN them but that the bed was too small, is also very telling! Sounds like this is something that K and A have done before! That A has slept with 2 men before, only this time, she had expected K to have joined in but he didn't. If not, how could he write something as disgusting as that and not get an angry reply? He could even end off by telling her to REST and PLAY later!!!!??????

    • Come to think of it, it could be a set up to frame PSH. The ex-manager or someone else, probably knew PSH's weakness; got K to use A (whom K knows has loose morals and is capable of such things). That's why K didn't join in or else he would be guilty too. I think A had expected K to join in, or thought that he had (who knows, maybe he did?). That's why A told friend B that K had slept with her too. Then they told her to cry rape and say that they'll stand by her and probably pay her. If successful, she'll be rich - no need to act any more. (To be famous actress is lots of hard work). With the money, she can go anywhere, since no one except a few know her identity. Even if she is not successful, PSH's career is already gone, at least for some years, and they'll still probably pay her, as either way, PSH has already lost - he was stupid enough to sleep with a woman so much younger, and she was drunk.

    • @crazyahjummafan Not everyone gives the same reaction to traumatizing events. I know a person who's been sexually abused by her brother through her adolescence and still sees and hangs out with him. In her mind she's trying to not freak out and act as if nothing happened. I also know of another person who had a very similar experience as PSH's case, although she did not wake up naked with a guy in the morning, she remembers being molested in her drunken state. Only after a week it dawned on her that she might have been abused and she broke down very badly but was scared and didn't do anything about it. Even now she makes jokes about it to make herself feel better I assume. It's a self protection mechanism. So, it's not easy to determine what might have been on A's mind and how she was feeling by only reading text messages. It might have been as you said, but we can't know for sure.

    • Logical analysis. So sum it up -
      - K isn't a good friend. He uses A for his connection.
      - PSH may have a history of one night stands. It doesn't seem it's his first time. If someone does stuff multiple times but will get caught eventually. His career may be hampered for now, but with his talented acting skills and a male in a male dominated society, he will be able to back up.
      - A is naive (if you say it nicely), not nicely said brainless because she being used by EYAGI and K and whoever. She needs to worry about her Career and her whole life at this time.
      - B meddles too much and to the point of getting A in bigger trouble and trouble for himself or herself
      - EYAGI - may be use this as revenge. If this is what it is, it's a stupid move and make a big mess.

• The best thing to do is grab popcorn and enjoy the show, because I'd lose my head over this if I tried to understand what exactly is going on. What does 'keke' even mean? Like 'haha'? Because if it does mean that, then this is ridiculous. She shows icons of TTT and then keke. Does that even make sense? Unless she is still drunk. Also, she isn't screaming rape here, but thats cz I feel she is yet to process that. Or yet to plan a money-making plot - going by PSH words.

  Whatever it is, this case is border-lining between amusing and just plain stupid.

• I dont think this is helping her case. Kekeing all over the place, whats so funny? And making plans to go clubbing with him? Wtf! And the korean sounds even more aegyorific than the English translation. Im so upset over this whole thing

  • he was making plans, she never said she was going. Way to twist things.

    • Twist what? Why did she specify the name of the club? Why confirm where he wants to go if there isnt perhaps even a slight possibility that she'll join him? If that isnt a plan, what is? Or is there a rule somewhere that states plans cant go both ways and only the person who suggested it first is the planner? He's clearly a skeevy slimeball but she sure isnt smelling like roses either

  • As the police previously said, the text messages were only considered as reference. So it doesn't help much for anyone. But I still think it's the right thing to do to present the entire conversation instead of scattered pieces previously exposed.

    As for she echoing the club's name that K suggested her to go, I'm guessing in her mind at that time, she was still trying to process all that information. I don't see her in the mood to hang out, because 4+ hours later, she went to seek for help in the service center for sexual assault and then the social worker took her to the police from there.

    It is hard for me to make sense of the kekeing or any exclamation words in the messages as I rarely use them. But above there is a comment by Asabiyet explained the TTTs: "sobbing", as the horizontal stroke represents eyes and vertical stroke means tears. There are lots of TTTs in A's message (about 20 of them)

• Does "keke" mean like a humorless "haha" like when one laughs but is not really laughing? Ah, am not making sense....like this case...

  • I don't know for other people but I usually use 'keke' as chukling.

  • For me..sometimes I use "haha" in texts when I want to make it appear that I'm having a good laugh/ at ease when in reality, I'm uncomfortable with the situation/not really that happy at all.

• These are just the weirdest messages. Her being surprised at ending up in bed with PSH is telling, but I still don't think it definitely proves rape. She seems to regret it for sure but she doesn't indicate anything was forced or that she was too upset. I mean didn't she also say K raped her too? and she wanted to go clubbing with him again/ wished he had been in bed with her?

  • She was still sobering up during this conversation. She probably come to that realization that maybe K raped her too when K mentioned her figure. Also the "Darn!" could be interpreted as ,that maybe nothing would have happened or she wished it was K. Dunno the extent of their friendship but she knows him if she could guess his usual activity. Followed by "it was something totally unexpected keke", could mean being drunk cuz K's reply is that he was drunk too. She only asked if he was going to XXclub (whatever that is). I didnt get that she is going with him.

    • She did not go out with him, instead she was in the police station five hours later.

  • She wasn't a virgin for sure that why she didn't seem too upset about it but rather confuse at what's just happen last night and rape doesn't mean the girl have to be force for sex. The way she didn't know how she ended up in bed with PSH is already telling that she had sex without knowing and agreeing with also mean rape. What we don't know is whether she agreed with him before pass out or not but whatever he shouldn't have sex with a pass out girl. Agh just one night of pressure and everything you build for years collapse in a blink of an eye.

    Plus A never said she expected to be in bed with K. It's K who assume that.

    • But you are assuming PSH was sober, they all may have been drinking.

  • She didn't go out with him. I think it's important to sort out what happened on Feb 15. I'm trying to list the things we know by time sequence, please correct me if it's not right or fill up the gap if you know more.

    1-2am P/K/A entered P's apartment

    9am P left for home

    2pm A left for home

    3:47~4:15pm The above text message between A and K

    (A and B text messages, but no time indicated)

    8:30pm B texted A suggesting A to meet with P's former agency

    9pm A went to service center for sexual assault and social worker took her to the police station

    (other than the text messages, the time is approximately rounded according to reports by the media. for reference only)

    • Correction:
      9am K left for home

  • She didn't say K raped her, rather K molested her. But K said that it was a misunderstanding, he was just trying to return the bed sheet. Yeah, not sure how returning bed sheets = molestation.

    • In his defence (kekeke).. while he was returning the bedsheet, he tripped over and fell on her. While he was getting up he accidentally touched her breast, she woke up realizing this....how's that for a theory..

    • @HJE ....this made me LOL.....yup maybe thats wut happened...so funny... but wut if K really uses that...hahahah.

    • HJE ^_^
      hahahahahaha
      K: can you be my defence lawyer?