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Cheongdamdong Alice Episode 12 Recap — 30 Comments

  1. Agree with your insights, Koala. Too much going on too fast and not enough time to resolve it all! Not even sure if a time jump would help, but hoping a great ending can be pulled off still!

  2. You’re reading my mind. At least this episode had a couple of funny moments as opposed to yesterday’s snoozefest. It wasn’t a bad episode on the whole but the whole premise behind everyone’s actions is so flawed. No one is doing things that make sense.

    And I agree about the cute moments, as well. I can’t even enjoy them because I’m like “This is all a farce.” I would be having so much more fun with this if the secret was out two episodes ago. Seung-Jo and Se-Kyung could have already had their requisite Big Misunderstanding and Big Reconciliation and we could spend this time watching them figure out how to stay together and navigate in their world.

  3. I concur with your observations. SK needs to come clean, SJ still needs maturity. Although I like that SJ and his Dad’s relationship starting to mend through SK encouragement, I’m not fond of SK protecting SJ like her child. They should have an open relationship… knowing each other’s idiosyncrasies and accepting them would be more beneficial in the long run not to mention more mature. I feel that SK mothering SJ is not only detrimental to their love for one another but SJ will never stand on his own. Give the man an opportunity to be a man for goodness sake. However, Soong Jo and Tommy Hong added to the group of people who supports SK & SJ is an added bonus no matter how narcissistic it may be. I’m also loving the tension going on in this episode with In Hwa knowing and the rest scrambling to cover their backs because of their bad decisions. Looking forward to next week.

  4. Appreciate the comment though you sounded so dissapointed. I’m enjoying the scenes with little evaluations. A
    Anxiously waiting for the next episode. Don’t give up just yet, Koala

  5. Since I dropped this drama 2? episodes ago. I’m just reading your wonderful recap to see if anything better happened. I guess not really? Thank you so much for your time, effort and insight. Big Hugs.

  6. Thanks Captain for this recap! (^_^) I like many things from this episode. I like that Seung Jo’s Dad is listening to Se Kyung’s plea to reach out to Seung Jo. Before this episode, I couldn’t imagine Seung Jo’s Dad giving in to anyone’s plea, especially from a poor, no-name Han Se Kyung. It was hilarious to see Seung Jo and his Dad exchange “Sorry” and “Me too”.

    I also like that the fathers from both sides have finally met. Se Kyung’s Dad holding his own in protecting his daughter, while Seung Jo’s Dad, I thought, was also defending his son upon hearing Se Kyung’s Dad not wanting to accept Seung Jo for a son-in-law. Different styles, but both adamantly demonstrating their paternal love!!

    Also, I like that Se Kyung showed us during the party for Artemis President Robert, that she indeed has a sharp designer’s talent when she drew the awesome design for the wine bottle label that Pres. Robert praised. That’s in-your-face Shin In-Hwa who told Se Kyung she doesn’t have a Designer’s eye. Se Kyung also showed her quick thinking when she gave a reason, in French, why the collaboration project did not go through Seung Jo, a reason that made Seung Jo and his Dad look good, I thought.

    Although I disliked him very much in episode 4 and 10, I’m relieved that Tommy Hong joined Team Se Kyung. Less enemies the better. After all, I want Se Kyung to win!!!

    Perhaps, the plot would have been more exciting if Se Kyung already had told Seung Jo the truth. But given the new developments in these last 2 episodes, I’m still entertained and routing for Seung Jo and Se Kyung’s to be happy together. It appears inevitable that next weekend’s episodes will unveil that truth we’re all waiting for. Who knows those may be the best episodes of this drama. Can’t wait! Aja! Aja!

  7. The Sae Kyung and Seung Jo’s dads is probably the only scene I enjoyed watching in this episode, both like “you think your daughter is better than my son to reject a marriage proposal?”

  8. what is up with all the complaining? i read yesterday the recap for ep 11 and i was so bummed cause i thought it would e awful, but then i watched it and actually liked it very much…
    Out of curiosity what would you want to happen in the drama, after episode 9 or 10? (cause most people are kinda disappointed after those episodes)?

  9. I won’t write off a drama until the very end, so I’m still enjoying how the story is unraveling. I also think TH jumped ship because he was sick of being abused by the Shin family/rich families in general and SK like he said reminds him of himself from 10 years ago. In this respect, I do agree with you that this point could have developed earlier in the drama. 4 eps to go, whooohooo!!!

  10. I don’t think that Seung Jo is so innocent. He used Yoon Joo to get back at his dad and he also used KS. When he finds out, he’ll be hurt/mad etc. but the guy needs to grow up anyway. This is the time the director drags out the reveal until the very last few eps.

  11. Flaws and all I still love this drama….I learned after watching so many years of drama to enjoy what you get. Some of the story might not make sense or go your way but if it’s enjoyable i’m a happy viewer.

    I also believe that if this show was at least 20 episode to start with, so many things would not have been so rushed and popping out everywhere randomly. The characters also would have more of a chance to develop (especially Park Shi Hoo’s, I agree it’s time for him to grow up). Overall it’s still a awesome drama, loving the strong acting of the casts as a whole especially MGY and PSY.

  12. While the issues raised of SK becoming a darker character have not been elaborated more on the drama, as I still feel she needs to come clean with SJ…same with SJ…he needs to accept her with all her flaws not put her in a pedestal as she has her now, but I still enjoyed these two episodes with all the cuteness and all between SK & SJ!! I really liked SK trying her best to improve the relationship between her man and father in law…thats very smart of her!! She can go farther as the Royal Group Madam than anywhere else…Im enjoying it so far…some flaws here and there in how things are developing but overall ok. Although, Im really hoping that they dont go so fast to the point of leaving unresolved issues as there are only 4 epi left…lets see 🙂

  13. I still think the writers know what they are doing. The fact that the couple still calling each other with honorific -sshi instead of something more personal and closer, I think that’s one way to show how awkward our couple are… yes they are in a relationship but NOT that kind of relationship yet, I guess…

    I kinda liked this chapter, with all the little kisses and the french (man, I’m a sucker for french! hahah) and the fact that everyone in the poster are actually have one goal, including both the second lead. I guess I don’t watch drama that much, because this is honestly a first for me, to have the second lead actually helping the main lead to get her goal since the very beginning (and Tommy Hong later joined too), I think the fact that it is quite different from all the dramas I’ve watched earlier keeps me staying 😉

    although yes, I do feel the lack of chemistry between the main couple because we all know it wasn’t actually sincere. Yes she does love him but she also has secret agenda… hmm~

  14. Love the cute couple scenes that were missing for a quite a no of episodes.. and father and son scenes. They are so similar in temperament..so funny.
    PSH is so charming and cute, and very much into the role of CSJ.
    I believe the angst will come in EP 13-14, when SJ has to contend with SK’s flaws.. come to terms with that, forgive and go forward in their relationship in a more realistic and matured way.
    Dont all love relationships evolve in stages… EP 12 shows that they are still in lovey dovey stage and in their sweet selves; next will be the conflict stage when they realise that their partner is not as perfect as they thought to be…. then come acceptance (if they so decide to stay and love each other still)…
    I believe SJ will grow emotionally after the angst.. and come to accept SK as a more complex person.. but still a choice partner for him.
    CSJ fighting!
    There are talks for 2 EPs extension … then writers need not rush through the developments…

  15. my resolution for this drama is the same as you. sk come out clean with sj, sj deals with his issues first, and if he still feel the same way, accept sk. though, i’m fine with him not forgiving sk.
    their sweet moments turn me off now too, especially sk. she just disgust me very much, plus the make-up. sometime it’s great, sometime it make her look like a patient.

  16. Will all our jaws drop if Seung Jo knows all along because he actually found the ‘list’ Se Kyung wrote carelessly in her college.

    Would this mean that he is more a man than most of us give him credit for and no longer a lame duck?

    Of course there is still the pact between Yoon Joo and Se Kyung to be discovered. Since he has closure already with Yoon Joo and also took responsibility for his part, the sting may not amount to much.

    I agree with Tea, Namcha and Pam. Let’s give the writers a chance to surprise us. Hopefully, in a good way. 🙂

  17. Dear Koala..maybe this is unrelated to the post but I need somewhere to vent about my obsession with CDDA. 🙂

    I loved SJ since the first episode and was unable to connect with SK because she was a very complicated and conflicted woman up until episode 12 when suddenly I “get” her.

    SK has become real to me. MGY did a great job portraying a regular multifaceted woman who needs to have many faces to face different people. (I am sorry my english isn’t very good).In reality people are like that.

    I also think that MGY portrayed her role as protector for SJ very well. It might seems like she is now only serves as a security blanket for SJ but in my opinion SJ is really a broken man and perhaps he really needs sometime to feel secure before he can actually be healed and come out strong as an individual. I just thought that, its good that we can see how strong of a woman SK is that she is really someone SJ need as life partner. They complement each other very well and so it will be good for the long run.

    Now that I am totally able to relate to SK, I am enjoying the show much more. Of course TH sudden change of behaviour was kind of odd but well it was in the character description in the first place and I have been hoping for it to happen several episodes ago. However seeing that it did happen later I hope the scriptwriter will do something to make us believe his feeling for SK.

    I liked In hwa and I still like her now. She is just being herself. 🙂

    I truly commend Yoon Jo because she is indeed one smart lady who is very thoughtful and careful. I only hope that her nightmares will end soon. I am not sure if coming clean with Min Hyuk will help their marriage but I can’t imagine a bad ending for someone who have worked so hard to find her place in Cheongdamdong world. She might have done something wrong in the past but it is not like she is a bad wife now. She really is playing her role as a wife should be.

    I actually love all of the side characters in CDDA. This is the first time all the characters in a drama seems like real people to me.

    In short I love this drama so much, I am seriously going to have a major CDDA withdrawal symptoms once its over.

    I hope ms. koala will enjoy it too as much as I do and thanks for all the lovely recap.

    🙂

  18. As for me, I’m really enjoying this series. Really, really love how complicated the characters and all of them have their own set of remarkable attitudes. I love CA so much it would hurt a lot if it’ll end.

  19. Nope, my jaw will not drop. As SJ’s personality is tempermental and unpredictable, anything and everything can happen. If he knew all along and is playing along the game all the time, that will be great! Everyone is spared the nail biting and hair pulling moments.

    For me as the back bencher, it is too much brain cracking to analyse and critic a drama each and every detail. As long there is a good cast, interesting story line, witty and funny dialogue, the directing of the drama is within control and it entertains me, I am one happy puppy. Besides there is no such thing as a perfect drama. Like human beings, it can be flawed too. It is just managing to adjust our expectations.

    Perhaps my expectations is not that high browed, sophisticated or intellectual but as long the drama has one or two of my favourite actor/actress, it is good enough for me.

  20. I agree with your view that the story seems to be dragging because Se Kyung could have confess and the burden and hurt could have been less, but I think what the writer is trying to show is people a lot times find it hard to face reality. It’s like what my teacher tell all her students that cheaters spend a lot of time and effort in cheating for a test in order to pass while forgetting that studying is the most obvious and easier way to pass. Like cheating some people can get away from it, but there are consequences that they have to face later on. For example, not really learning the material to advance their skills. For Se Kyung, we get to see that she is in more trouble than before, and also she is facing to lose more people on her side and the difficulty to regain those people’s trust. Like Chairman Cha, who is starting to warm up towards her, and her parents, who I think does not want her to get hurt and face a lot of burden. What I like about this drama is Se Kyung, the protagonist, is almost like a tragic hero where she doesn’t see her flaws. She can be smart, but she is exactly similar to Cha Seung Jo because they both fear the person that they love will leave them. I think Se Kyung is also still devastated when her ex-boyfriend chose to fled and left her. I don’t know why people are so critical of her being black, but I think this should be obvious. Also, Seung Jo should understand that fear especially he saw how devastated Se Kyung was when he followed her on ep 3 and that they are similar to his fear. I really like this drama because even though it’s typical drama I feel like sometimes I don’t know what’s going to happen. I do also hope that when Seung Jo finds the truth that he doesn’t jump to conclusions and really evaluate what really is happening. Also, I think it’s better if Se Kyung tells the truth and not let Yoon jo’s reason that Seung Jo can die get into her head anymore or at least not be scared and go back to the depressing phase she became into on ep 9.

    I’m really curious how it would end and what twist will show up in next ep.

  21. Trappings do not make a man or a woman, in the case of In Hwa. She who is born into wealth doesn’t hesitate to show scorn to those she feels are beneath her. At the onset, hasn’t she sneered at Se Kyung’s talent, ridiculing her for not having a designer’s eye? In Hwa with her exaggerated sense of her own importance sees the light of day and a slap in her face when the head of Artemis perceives SK’s inherent talent and praises SK for her worth. In Hwa isn’t done yet with her furious indignation and jealousy when her own father, President Shin, expresses his admiration for SK’s talent and smartness. Even her own brother, Min Hyuk, acknowledges that indeed SK has ability and is more than just a pretty face. Jealousy turns into envy which eats at her very core fanning the fuming rage inside her. And when greed and envy rear their ugly heads, trappings of gold and designer’s clothes or birth to a chaebol lineage cannot conceal the true character of a person. The raging wrath inside her fuels her madness to ruin SK. Hell has no fury like a woman scorned. Perhaps, it is more understandable if she is doing this for ‘love’. But no, she is wholly doing ‘revenge’ for she feels she is superior to SK. How can anyone so beneath the social rank, someone who has no eye for good design, someone who comes from a “poor” family background, someone who cannot fill her shoes as a chaebol’s daughter, be the toast of the town? How can anyone so lowly be better than her? So absorb is she with her own selfish musings that she forgets that talent can be honed, skills can be studied and knowledge can be learned but a person’s true character is revealed by what she does when no one is watching. Reputation is built in a moment but character is built in a lifetime. And with a family such as hers it is no wonder that IH is the way she is. As the tree, so the fruit. At least we can say that her father knows when to give credit where credit is due.

    • I really like and agree with your analysis of the situation -definitely spot on! I believe that this is the message the writers are trying to bring across and so far, I really like how they have crafted CDDA. It is a drama like no other…so real to life, with its ups and downs, not your regular, stick to what the audience accepts plot, fairy tale OTPs and black is black and white is white . Not easy for a lot of people to accept this divergent view and I think the key reason why there are so many different, and loud voices. To me, there is a lot of depth to Eps 11-12, if you would just listen, a drama is not all about action! Well done CDDA. Love it and will stick to he very end. Just frustrated that it is not a longer series to allow more time for depth!

  22. Hello fellow CDDA viewers! (^_^)

    It just dawned on me that there is a superstition that says it is bad luck for the bridegroom-to-be to see his bride in a wedding dress. Since SJ saw SK in this episode in a wedding dress, is that a foreshadowing of them not ending up together?…I’m sad already, just thinking about it. 🙁

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