If my hate for SETTV was able to be transformed into a tangible expression, I would air drop ten tons of cow poop on the network. I am really really sensitive when it comes to drama watching, honed from years of seeing dramas go wonky or stay the course. I trust my gut and my gut tells me the production of King Flower is going to insist on sticking with their pre-established OTP of Da Hua and Guan Jun. I watched episode 17 feeling like everyone was trying to pave the way for Terry, but that made me all the more worried once Guan Jun started down his path of “I’m not good enough for Da Hua.” It’s not noble idiocy because he’s being an insecure turd bucket about it, but the end result is the same, Da Hua is going to go cry on Terry’s shoulder and then eventually all issues will be resolved between her and Guan Jun and they get their barftastic happily ever after. What makes it all the worse, and every one of the fans is bitching about this, but there is an undeniable realization that SETTV is using Terry to keep its ratings afloat and dangling little bits of hope before us with ridiculously wonderful and shippy moments between him and Da Hua. The drama is unwilling to allow the three main leads to really have adult conversations about life and love, and instead keeps sticking poor Terry under the rain to break our hearts over and over again.
Okay, let me amend that, Terry is the only one able to have adult conversations both internally and with Da Hua about how he feels. But Da Hua is too stupid to look deeper into why she thinks about Terry all the time, and Guan Jun with his big dick attitude just thinks it’s all about him and what he can or cannot offer Da Hua. A fan wrote this and I agree a billion percent. Love doesn’t need a reason, Da Hua loves Guan Jun in all his useless glory and we have to respect that. As a viewer we don’t necessarily need to agree with it. But every single viewer loves Terry, and its not just because he’s rich and good looking and nice to Da Hua, its because his heart and thoughtful maturity just envelopes us in a sensation of real love. In this case, I need a reason why Da Hua doesn’t love Terry, because that is the only way I can let my ship go. Otherwise I would have just wasted months of my life on the pointless non-love-story to ever come out of TW-dramas. I also need to give a spoiler – I just saw a picture on weibo from the cast that felt like someone drop kicked me. I can’t even post that picture because it’ll make me cry, but suffice to say, I probably need to stop watching KF. I’ll recap episode 17 but for my own sanity may need to go on hiatus until the drama ends.
Preview for episode 18:
Da Hua: Guan Jun oppa, what’s gotten into you?!
Guan Jun: I feel like we don’t have a future together anymore.
Da Hua: You really feel that way?
Guan Jun: How can I compare to Ouyang Tai? Stupid ball, Guan Jun oppa never told you, but I’m dating Xiao Fei.
Terry: Da Hua! Da Hua!
Da Hua: Guan Jun oppa would never do that to me!
Terry: How long are you going to keep lying to yourself?
Da Hua (to Terry): Let’s not see each other anymore.
Guan Jun (to Da Li): Do you remember you once asked me if I could bring happiness to your sister? Now I can tell you after much consideration and in all seriousness, your sister and I can’t possibly have a future together.
Terry: No matter what happens in the future, I will always protect you.
Jin Mom: You two, plus Hu Xiao Fei and Ouyang Tai, the four of you are so complicated. Why don’t you two just hurry up and get married.
Guan Jun: Da Hua and I are brother and sister, siblings can’t get married.
Da Hua: Didn’t we agree not to see each other anymore?
Terry: I just hope, when you are sad, to be by your side and keep you company.
Da Hua: Have you mistaken me for Liang Yen again?
Come to mama, Captain Koala. I will make you hot tea and any kind of baked good you want. I have expereinced the betrayal that you have feared (*cough Yi Chun/Miss Rose cough*), so I know how you feel. Even I will admit that this is far worse. Really the ONLY reason to watch this drama is for Terry and what Chris Wu has done to this character. He should be given an award for completely carrying this show on purple-sweatered shoulders. I don’t care about anyone else. I don’t even really care about Da Hua, and frankly, don’t think she deserves such love from Terry. The writers have not made her mature enough to understand it or deep enough to need it. The ONLY reason why I want them together is because it is what Terry wants. What more Terry snacks in the rain? Oh, show. You are really breaking my heart.
I am so angry right now my brain has fizzed and can barely discuss what is happening coherently. I also could care less about DH at this point. She’s stupider than I even thought humanly possible.
SO TRUE. I love your comment, “The writers have not made her mature enough to understand it or deep enough to need it.”
This, in a nutshell, is my problem with Da Hua.
I just don’t understand, all those “special” moments between Terry and Da Hua have been accompanied by standard long gazes and music compared to the DH and GJ moments (maybe it’s because I tend to skip over them so I don’t notice?? haha)…to me that’s usually a sign that they’re a otp. I almost wish they would put Kai Le back in the picture since her character description wasn’t too bad and she’s been in love with Terry for a long time. She never came across as the standard evil antagonist like Johnson does and at least she has a brain in her head (wish it was a better actress though but I am past caring at this point).
The drama has written Terry like guy1, and he gets ALL the romantic shippy moments in this drama, whether its with Liang Yen (swoon) or Da Hua (swoon). Guan Jun gets jack squat other than act like a useless big brother. I wish he would GDIAF.
I had gigh hopes doe ep17 but I also came away after it feeling like they will still make the OTP stick together. As much as that sucks and sucks big time!!!
But the reason I am commenting is because I really want to see the photo you saw from the cast on weibo!!! Pretty please?!?
Dear JJ, I saw the photo and agreed with Captain Koala– it’s a darn heart-breaking spoiler. I immediately decided to stay away from this drama despite how much I love Terry scenes. I can point you to the URL if Koala is okay with it.
I’m curious! What is the picture?
@ fishtank, can we not discuss that. I can’t even. Coupled with James Wen’s FB post last week, I just wish this drama would disappear from my world so I needn’t be tortured by it.
Heart has sunk. Sorry Koala for bringing this up ;(
Maybe I will have to watch FB next week instead. Sighs…
Like mother, like daughter. they both have a thing for horrible men.
Anya, I second your thought. On top of that, Mom’s giving crappy advice of staying with the wrong guy. Does she want to see her daughter miserable like her?
I’m pretty certain Mom thinks it’s just a blip on DH’s love story. I can’t stand GJ but he’s a decent guy and Mom knows DH has liked him for eons. The problem is DH’s had no real reason to desire more for herself and is naive enough to believe her childhood crush will sustain a lifetime.
To be fair Guan Jun is not totally horrid and irredeemable like the dad, I have to agree with the general consensus that he is an immature douchebag.
What great insight. Mom has the worst taste in men and she apparently thinks she is some great person to give advice on LOVE? I mean, hello? Anyone in there?
Like you said mom is a moron and I suddenly realized DH is one too. I’d rather Terry end up alone so he can meet someone he deserves.
The problem with this drama at its core, is that Terry is the better man and he loves Da Hua. He’s strong, honorable and respective of her and her feelings but also is clear and pointed about his own. I truly don’t give a crap about who Da Hua “thinks” she loves.
I also don’t condone or ascribe to SLS and never will, but unlike most dramas, this is an exception. Therefore, brains around the world can’t compute him “not” getting what he wants, because he’s done everything right. He is the epitome of the new crop of second leads that aren’t idiot punks waiting in the wings to be loved.
I admit heart will hurt if “the douche” remains the dream but honestly, I never had any doubt.
Terry has earned his status as the better man. We watched him love, lose, suffer, redeem himself, learn to move on. We watched it all, and now the drama refuses to budge on its preconceived notions of poor plucky couple gets to adventure and then end up together. FUCK YOU, SETTV. Seriously. FUCK YOU AND YOUR POINTLESS POSTURING TO MAKE A POINT.
NOOOOOOO TERRRYYYYYYY! She has to end up with Terry. How can you choose the other guy over Terry! Terry is so perfect. If you won’t take him, I’ll take him!
Chris is already mine, been MINE for years now. So that means Terry is also mine. 😀 Sowwy.
He needs to learn Korean!!! and move to Korea(where they wouldn’t had a problem given him the girl)I’m debating whether to wait for eng subs for ep17 and see whats next or just quit and give my mind my own satisfied ending!!! Ugh
That’s okay unnie! I’ll give him up just for you :). I claim Cha-Song- Joo (Kwon Sang Woo) from Stairway to Heaven instead! Where are all these hotties in real life though? #Foreveralone
NOOOOOO. EW Not Guan Jun. NOOOOO. *cries* Second lead shipping SO hard. Has Chris Wu been lead in anything yet? He’s gorgeous. *drools* haha
He was the lead in What is Love? Drama is wobbly, female lead can’t really act, his character was a giant douchebag, but he did amazing as he always does in “acting”.
Hmm…maybe I’ll give that a try afterwards. Whenever this drama is over I’ll decide if I want to watch it. Your recaps have been great and I’m obsessed with Chris Wu/Terry now, so if he doesn’t get the girl I won’t watch it haha.
I hope he NEVER takes 2nd lead again!! My heart wouldn’t be able to take it ;(
Dear Koala, I fully support your decision to take a break from this drama. We all knew it’s not well written (except for the Terry character), but I didn’t know it was this bad… the spoiler broke my heart. It’s terrible because I would have enjoyed a few more episodes of Terry scenes. π_π
The spoiler was like a dagger. Yes, it could have been leading to something else, but I refuse to have hope because SETTV is run by the same type of douchebag they think ought to be the main lead.
I’d like to see that photo too! Why don’t you post a link so we have the choice to see it if we want!
Thank you Koala,
You know I had a bit of hope to see the relationship between DaHua and Terry evolves! You know but after watching this preview my heart is sinking 🙁
Actually, Da Hua is really the ANNOYING one, I can’t stand her clueless face, it’s an obsession what she feels for Guan Jun and what makes me mad is that she is hurting Terry the most by telling him does he think of Liang Lian when he is with her! Ouch my heart! I am not even eger to watch episode 18!
A Terry/ Da Hua relationship would make so much more conflict for the remainning episode! I am just sad right now!
The picture you saw I don’t even want to know but I can imagine next week Da Hua / Guan Jun will kiss…If she closes her eyes my friends we can forever bury our ship!
Maybe the kiss will make her realize she has very sisterly feelings for GJ. There is hope . …..I am not giving up yet. Even if the spoiler pic is of a wedding between GJ and DH …..you never know what might happen on wedding day. So it’s not over until it’s over. I think they are playing with us.
haha I tried to think of the looks she gives Terry as “bewildered by strange but exciting feelings” but interpreting the expression as “DH’s brain is constipated”.
Da Hua’s expressions of cluelessness and confusion really rubbed me all the wrong ways in this episode. I wanted to bitch slap her SO BAD. So so so bad. And I love Nikki Hsieh but damn Da Hua is a moron.
The only silver liining in this whole ridiculous trainwreck is that da hua is so stupid she doesn’t deserve someone like Terry. Let her marry her doofus lunkhead, and in our own minds we can fashion the paragon that Terry deserves and send her his way. Honestly, I know he loves da hua, but she would drive me batty inside a week. Thank you koala, for throwing yourself on this grenade.
Ugh. Though I’m curious what that weibo pic is! Tweet me? @emsterzzzz
In order to keep my sanity, I am going to stop watching this show too.
I stopped at 13, when my admiration for terry was equalled by my disgust for guan jun. I paused to wait for koala to say whether the seas ahead were fair or foul. I think I have my answer, and I am not watching any more. I got burned badly on the last drama I watched!
I’m still pinning hope for a Terry/Da hua ending.. even though I got to admit my hope dampen alot with that spoiler pic…. sigh how i wish they can revive Liang Yen for Terry to have a happily ever after ending.
I need Liang Yen revived. NOW.
OK…I just watched Epi 17 and I don’t care if DH doesn’t choose Terry. She’s not good enough for him. She’s too dumb. He deserves better. They better introduce a beautiful accomplished lady with a heart of gold for Terry. Maybe Cheryl Yang in a special appearance.
OMG, yesyesyes, that would be AMAZING. Chris Wu and Cheryl Yang’s chemistry is….out of this world. Zhong Wu Yen was bearable because of them.
I LOVED THIS SCENE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCvGD1NBZQs
is zhong wu yen a good drama?? – switch the topis, ahaaha-
However preposterous it would be I could actually take it even if the writer had Liang Yen’s soul come back in Cheryl Yang’s body (best of both worlds I say). This way I could disassociate her from Da Hua’s stupidity.
I understand not one word of Chinese (okay, maybe one word) but that was potent Ms. Koala. Chris’s eyes spoke thousands of words before he even opened his mouth, and how his hand shook, and his face became so concerning! Oh gosh, he may make a fan out of me.
Nothing comes close to beating Chris Wu in Autumn’s Concerto and the KILLER SCENE in episode 19 when Mu Cheng had to tell Tuo Ye that she’s already married Guang Xi that morning, bc Guang Xi is blackmailing her but she can’t tell him.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoNkWLajDgM
Un-fucking real acting on that bridge. I have never ever ever EVER forgiven Liang Mu Cheng for what she did. She didn’t just break a man’s heart, she broke a man’s soul.
This line of dialogue imprinted in my heart forever “It’s not that you married him, it’s that six years ago and six years later, whenever you have a problem you still turn to him first. Not me, but him.”
Oh, this scene! I still have residual bias against Ady An because of this scene…how could she? Chris Wu is hands down my favorite Taiwanese actor by a LONG margin and I will sit through anything that he is in. I seriously have second-lead shipped every single drama of his where he is not the lead. And I’ve been sifting through all of the ridiculous in King Flower just to see him but now this?!
I haven’t seen the spoiler but I have a suspicion what it might be. I would love to be enlightened if possible so I know what I’m hating…
This scene in AC is seriously the best scene of CW’s acting. I seen just about everything that he has been in and I will always remember the lines that he said in this scene. Love him love him. Totally second lead shipped here. I will say that he’s pretty similar when he does these types of scenes across a great majority of his dramas but that’s cause they are filled so much emotion, I cried with him every time. I am not a big crier.
Chris is epic in that scene in AC… the raw emotions and heart pain. T.T Up till now everytime i hear this song of Pin Guan, this heartbreaking scene is still so vividly in my mind.
Chris Wu seems like an actor who loves his craft…..and so easy on the eye! I am happy to have discovered him. I would like to watch AC but I don’t want to see him lose the girl and Vaness is not my cup of tea. I don’t care for the leading lady too. In her scene with Chris she had just one expression. I want to see him with a great leading who can act and who is smart. Nikki has been great for him except they have made DH so dumb. When I watch her with her mother…..I am so depressed. I can already see her turning into her mother.
What huh? What happened? I haven’t seen said horrible spoiler but is it possible that they want to mislead the viewers? Or are they preparing us… Oh boy.
If they wanted us to root for stupid GJ… Couldn’t they have made his character just a little but less douchy. This guy is ridiculous. I tried really hard to like him. It just didn’t work out in the end. They gave me nothing!
What? I jumped to ep 16 and is in the.middle of ep 17, now you are telling that Terry may not end with Da Hua but Guan Jun. I’m watching KF cos of Terry not GJ. This is really disappointing. Ahahh… This is suck…
I’m done with this drama. Da Hua was innocent in the beginning and now she is just stupid. Awesome character development.
Koala, I’m so confused too. Terry is turning in the perfect second guy that’ll help main girl no matter what, even if this means making her go backwith main guy, all because of his love.
And GJ will go ”I’m not good to you, lets break up” Terry will comfort DH and will make GJ and DH get together again. Ugh.
I hope this happen, only in the end DH thinks in all the things Terry did and realize who she really loves (?)
How many episodes this drama will have?
Not sure, prolly 21-23 episodes.
thanks! Heard someone said 28 episodes and then I got scared that maybe GJ can become the man DH will end up with.
Doesn’t matter, Terry must stay perfect, I wish just this.. lol
It says on Viki.com that there is going to be 20 episodes.
What a Terry-ble way to drop Terry. Well, let this be a consolation, stupid girl Da Hua does not deserve our good boy Terry. Yaaaaaaaa!!!!1
I’m pretty much there already, Da Hua does not deserve Terry.
Would someone, anyone post a link to this weibo pic everyone is talking about. I’ve tried searching for it and can’t find it.
Nikki is wearing a full-scale Grey Bear suit and she’s filming at the airport with Big Mouth and James Wen.
Repeated many times already, but can you post a link to that picture so we can see it too?
I know that I am in the minority but I genuinely believe that Terry and Da Hua will end up together. There is no reason that there would be so many intimate scenes between the two for so many episodes. I don’t believe it is a rating ploy from SETTV.
I’m not going to explain why but there is a 85% chance that Terry and Da Hua is the end game. I’m not going to elaborate, but be positive. 😉
Thank you for all the recaps.
If you know something we don’t know, then thank you for telling us to stay positive. T___T I need some hope.
Yes! Please! I read something on the chinese fb page stating it is known that she’ll end up with James Wen’s character…sigh.
Seriously, why would any TV show, be it Taiwanese, Korean or any country tell everyone the ending to their show before the final episode. That makes no sense.
This is my positive cap on….Maybe she will run to him(Terry)in her wedding dress after a flower-pot hit her on the head. Leaving GJ at the church because all her screws fell in to place and realize she loves Terry!?
@Theresa…if you know more, please share with us.
I am not going to continue watching this drama if the dumb writers keep trying to force the Da Hua/Guan Jun relationship down our throats. 99.9% of the viewers out there want Da Hua to end up with Terry and if the writers of the drama don’t see that, then I am not wasting a second more of my life watching their show.
Please give us some hope!
This drama is seriously riding on the star power of Chris Wu. His talent is keeping it afloat despite the numerous problems with the writing. If anyone else had played Terry, I doubt he’d be as compelling. And I love James Wen to pieces, but “Guan Jun” isn’t right for him at all. Had they really wanted him to be a believable first lead, they should have totally removed the car accident/GM sections and let him be a lovable rogue. He also never had enough scenes, and often seemed removed from the important action of the plot–except to be a problem. I disagree with the general consensus that GJ is a “dbag,” (comparing him to Terry isn’t fair, because that guy is almost a saint) but he’s certainly been less sympathetic and we can blame the scriptwriters for that. Unfortunately, they don’t have time to make up for this, and the ending they originally planned no longer fits as well as it might have five or six episodes ago. Nothing else to do but hope all our leads get a better script next time.
As much as I always liked James Wen and thinks he is a very talented actor, but this KF drama hasn’t been very kind to him in turns of his role and looks. Think it’s time for him to portray ahjussi and not a romantic lead anymore.
I think James still looks like a romantic lead… It’s just that he needs to play more mature men. His characters in P.S. Man and My Queen are just his style–he needs to avoid his current hairstyle and any character even remotely resembling Guan Jun in the future, though.
I liked him a lot better in My Queen – I think that at 35 he is better off playing older, more experienced men; it fits him better, and perhaps interests him more. You have to admit, Guan Jun is not a nuanced or complicated character, and that fact, as well as the fact that he just became a new dad, may be the reason he is just phoning this one in. If this were the first production I had seen with him, I would not be impressed by him, at all.
What a disappointment. I was just starting to watch the first episode. But now… What does DH want?
Here is Terry who has been sweet to her, help her, show her that there is another world besides the one she knows.
And she just wants to repeat the same story that her mom is living.
Still I might just watch the drama for Terry since he is the only character that was fully developed. The rest I will skip.
i can understand your anger and we are with you, the rest of the people in the playground who had followed KF. 🙁 frankly i am only on this drama because i really love the Terry-DH ship. i wish that they would still give us a positive ending for our OTP. i know it is very remote but still. 🙁
Oh dear, I feel like I shouldn’t be here when I say that I liked Mu Cheng and Guang Xi together (but my being a fan of Vanness since his F4 days may be a factor)
Anyways, I have invested too much time and emotion in this drama and hearing this makes me depressed ;; If SSETV had the brain and balls, they’d actually listen to the fans logical preference to Terry not simply because Terry and Da Hua have chemistry but because there’s a basis and authentic reason for their chemistry and not just stupid puppy love. Seriously, James Wen is a good actor and all but they should see what a game-changer Chris Wu is and I’d hate it if they just dangle him as bait for ratings.
🙁
As everyone here I love Terry and would love to see him with Da Hua at the end… but is really unlikely =/ And i’ve been thinking that the only ending worthy of Terry’s awesomness is that he dies at the end… trying to protect Da Hua or something really heroic like that…. probably that’s the picture koala saw… Terry’s death… totally heart-breaking… totally possible… and I will continue watching this drama just because Terry is such an amazing character he deserves to be watched. I will definitely cry my eyes out at the last episode (i cry every episode actually =/) but Terry’s worth it… </3… -goes to a corner and cries again-
No…….I don’t want Terry to die. DH is not worth dying for . I want him to go on a long holiday. He should make a clean break and give himself time to recover from LY and his feelings for DH. He needs a time out. There should be a time break in this drama of 5 years. By then DH should have gone to school with her godfather’s help, GJ happily married to that lively daughter of the gangster. Terry comes back ready to start again and DH chases him this time.
THEY BETTER GIVE CHRIS WU A BREAK. GIVE HIM A DRAMA WHERE IN HE’S THE LEADING IM SERIOUS PEOPLE! THIS IS SOOOO ANNOYING HOW COULD THEY. I’m really quitting this useless crap of a drama. Using Terry to spoon more ratings. Pathetic! Can’t even use their own leading man to raise up the ratings. Pathetic! Not only is Da Hua foolish also the production’s minds! They got no soul and love for the viewers they only think of what they’ve talked about behind the cameras! -_- THAT’S NOT RIGHT! You got have a heart to cater the audience even if it takes you millions! ‘Cause you sure as hell, iz coming back to you by leaps and bounds! People and their contrivances and ulterior motives!!!
OMG the spoiler pic you mentioned I’M SO PISSED OFF how can the directors NOT SEE terry is the better. What HAS Guan Jun done for Da Hua I mean she was there by his side all those years and he never did anything and once she LEFT that he realised his feelings on top of her Da Hua becoming pretty… ALSO how he blackmailed terry with the auction land thing how come no one said HE was evil and when terry pulled da hua in at the wedding photoshoot scene everyone was saying he was evil
WHY CAN’T DA HUA JUST BE GROW UP AND BE M A T U R E I loved the scene in episode 9 where da hua comforted terry about liang yan WHHY COULDNT SHE BE AS MATURE AS SHE WAS THERE and REALISE terry is the better one
Not to beat a dead horse if someone has already pointed this out…but I have serious problems with Guan Jun. Sure he’s been there all along for Da Hua but he wasn’t seriously attracted to her until she got a makeover and he was losing her to another guy. With Terry, she got a makeover to look like Liang Yan but he fell in love with who she actually was. UGH THIS DRAMA. I can’t get over the Olivia Ong song in the kiss scene/wedding dress scene.
I was so happy when Terry kissed her! WHY ARE THEY DOING THIS TO THEM NOW?! Terry loves her for who she actually is. Guan Jun met her first, she crushed on him and he ignored her UNTIL she got her makeover and he realized that he would lose her. It’s only THEN he decided he wanted to keep her.
And Da Hua! Is she an idiot? Why does she keep thinking of Terry so much? MAYBE YOU’RE IN LOVE WITH HIM. Oh but of course not! I love Guan Jun, the boy who’s ignored me but has finally seemed to notice me! Excuse me, but WHAT?
I thought there was hope for this drama when Terry kissed her in the rain.
Apparently I was wrong.
Honestly, if Da Hua is that much of an idiot to choose Guan Jun, let her have him. Terry can come to me.
I know we are all very dissapointed with this drama… but a beam of hope has appeared in front of me… im not sure but… have u seen this video? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eV95JK5QniM is just a song from the drama and has nice pictures of Terry and Da Hua… and suddenly at the 1.16 mark… a picture of the two of them lying on a bed… kissing… =OOOO now please can anyone tell me if this is Da Hua or LY?? cuz honestly I can’t remember… =O if this is not LY… We still have hope people!!!
I think that’s actually Liang Yian just a bit after their engagement ㅠ