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Lost You Forever Chapter 6: Like a Familiar Person Has Come — 87 Comments

    • Ms Koala, many thanks for introducing this book and the translation you’ve done. I have hesitate to read until your recommendation. I don’t like the ending but guess this is the best.

  1. Thanks for the lovely translations!

    Ah, friends when drunk, sober when strangers. I think what I liked most is Xan Tian Er’s pursuit of happiness — the way Tong Hua described it, that was lovely to read.

  2. Lol. XL basically have the three types of guys every women wants – the loyalist, the lover, and the soulmate, now only if they can mesh into one.

  3. Really really love this story. Thanks for introducing me to my first chinese novel, koala. I wonder if there’s any korean or japanese novel as entrancing and thought provoking as Lost You Forever.

    • The first volume has 17, second has 16, and I think the third volume has around the same amount of chapters with just a few more. Don’t worry there’s a long way to go! A long time to enjoy the journey and to appreciate it, if you haven’t already been obsessing over it like I am hehe. Thanks koala – hope you can sense the weighty gratitude of that!

  4. I wonder if Xuan knows that Xiao Liu is not in his true form? and I guess that he doesn’t know that XL’s father isn’t his master?(I read a summary of ‘Once Promised’) so that’s why she didn’t tell him? and also, they’re not really related? I have so many questions about Xuan lol but this chapter is nice. More and more I can grab my ideas on the characters. The 3 male leads are so different even in their dynamic with XL. Shiqi/Jing is so restraint that I start feeling frustrated for him, cause I want to be on his ship! At this point, it’s hard to tell if XL has or even can develop feelings for him later. since they hardly see each other and there’s Xiangling, and xuan. argh. Myself is trying to resist Xiangling, i think it’s safe to say he’s interested in XL, in his true form or whatever he said lol Though like you mentioned, i have impression he doesn’t even try to show that he does care for her. But i think soon or later she’ll see, it often happens like that between a OTP so..yep. Btw, is it me or he didn’t just bite her neck ,suck blood every time, cause as revealed in this chapter, i think he did more, XL was just oblivious hehe

    • With the bug in xuan, and he can feel everything that XL feels. It will be pure toture to the tenth power when he can feel xiangling giving XL love bites. It’s one thing to be joulous by seeing the bites (SQ), and quite another when u can actually feel the bite and how she feels when it’s happening bc evidently she likes it 😉 .but that also means that XL may feel guilty later on if xiangling continues. All I can say is “Girl! Don’t resist!!!”

      • Skyblu – What? Divorced? Can you please clarify that a bit more? Or is that considered a spoiler? 🙂

        Also, is A’Heng dead at this time, and if so, how?

    • It doesn’t matter who Xiao Liu’s real dad is in terms of how she is related to Xuan. He said it already in this chapter – his little sister cousin is his Auntie’s daughter. Xiao Liu’s mom is Xuan Yuan Ba, the Crown Princess of Xuan Yuan and Xuan’s dad is Xuan Yuan Chang Yi the Xuan Yuan 4th Prince. Ergo – Xiao Liu and Xuan are first cousins because her mom is his dad’s younger sister.

      • Koala, there is something I been meaning to ask you about this chapter…if Xuan is the oldest grandson of the Yellow Emperor like XL said, is Xuan like the crown prince? Or something like “the next one in line for the throne”? How powerful is he exactly?

      • Xuan is both powerful as the grandson of the Xuan Yuan Yellow Emperor, and powerless since he’s pretty much been de facto exiled to Gao Xing.

        The Xuan Yuan Yellow Emperor had 10 kids. All sons except for the youngest daughter Xuan Yuan Ba who is Xiao Liu’s mom. Xuan’s dad is the 4th son.

        In the story so far, both Xiao Yao and Xuan have alluded to many of their relatives being dead. In Once Promised, the most rocks falls down ending EVER, 10 out of the 12 main characters end up dead by the end of the novel. Many of the main leads in Once Promised are Xuan Yuan princes. So right now in Lost You Forever, the Yellow Emperor has lost many of his sons and daughter (including Xuan’s dad and Xiao Liu’s mom), but still has a handful left.

        So Xuan has a few uncles still alive, and as the grandson of the Yellow Emperor he’s not the crown prince or anywhere near in line for the throne since there are still sons of the Yellow Emperor still alive. But in the battle for power, Xuan can conceivably take out his remaining uncles and win the throne. But in terms of power, right now he’s nothing, a prince in title only.

      • Hi koala. So who are the remaining uncles who Xuan has to vie for the throne? And are the other uncles close to A’Heng? Because they are the ones who forced Huang Di to exile Xuan to Gao Xin.

      • Thank you, Koala! for your thorough and detailed explanation! Much more than I ask for!;) It’s great! I understand Xuan situation a little bit better now.
        Just one more question, sorry for asking you so much!
        But is Ah Nian then XL’s step-sister? How are they related? Does XL knows he/she has a somewhat sister? What are their sisters dynamic when XL was younger? Personally, I would love to see XL have a cute little sister who XL can talk to and care for!:) Is this just false hope? haha

      • From the references in LYF, I think XL is Chi You and A’Heng’s daughter, but she is acknowledged as A’Heng and Jun Di (Shao Hao aka Ah Nian’s father). When XL was young, A’Heng divorced Jun Di, so she never really knew Ah Nian. Ah Nian is Jun Di and another woman’s daughter, so there is no actual blood relation. But to the characters, they are sisters with the same father but different mothers.

      • Skyblu – What? Divorced? Can you please clarify that a bit more? Or is that considered a spoiler? 🙂

        Also, is A’Heng dead at this time, and if so, how?

      • thank you!! that makes sense! it’s a bit saddening though. XL only have Xuan as the last caring relative left:(

      • I don’t think it’s really a spoiler since this all happened in Once Promised. I didn’t finish that, so I can only explain from the references the characters make later in LYF. A’Heng and Jun Di were married to further the Xuan Yuan-Gao Xin/Qing Yang-Jun Di alliance. But there wasn’t any real love between them in the beginning. In the end, A’Heng gave Jun Di a divorce letter and left Gao Xin. (It was very scandalous, even if she was a princess.) She returned to Xuan Yuan where Xuan and XL grew up together.

  5. oh btw, I was thinking about the drama, what if they cast Hu Ge again, as Shi Qi. cause heck i think he’ll be perfect. But I read that Shi Qi and his character in Da Mo Yao are similar (I haven’t read DMY) so probably not? plus if Shi Qi has same fate/ending as the other then :'(
    Do you have anyone in mind for other cast?

    • I don’t know if I would watch it even with all the pretty eye candies… Dramas never does the book or our imagination justice. It’s a good thing I grew up with old tvb wuxu dramas – ill let my mind do the imagination

  6. This chapter was hard to read as Xiao Liu was gravely injured. Sometimes I wish she would just leave as she keeps on getting hurt needlessly.

    Both Xuan and Xiang are in the doghouse for the messed up shit they’ve done to Xiao Liu. I don’t think you need to be patient to call out the shitty stuff they did even if they have their reasons. I mean it was unnecessary to throw her neck on the stone just because you can’t control your temper.
    I’m interested to see how the author redeems them.

    Anyway, love Shi Qi/Jing, always there in the shadows waiting to help, willing to do anything she asks, loving her from afar and never asking for anything. Why can’t they be the OTP?

      • yea it’s only a few chapters and the heroine has been injured so many times. granted she’s a man now but it doesn’t justify the violence. I’m pretty sure Xiangliu and Xuan will redeem/change later but right now I’m already sitting on Shiqi ship. Unless for some reason he’ll change or become evil, which i pray to god not. I can’t take such cliche anymore.

  7. Swoon.. This story is so good it made me de-lurk. I love every chapter. What? Only 17 chapters in book 1??! Can’t it be forever like the title goes. But why can’t Xiao Liu reveal herself to her beloved gege.. Yeah so her cover will be blown.. I thought her gege is more important than that.. Can it be that she doesn’t want to go back to her old life, and would much rather continue her life as a wanderer? Mysterious.. Patience, patience, more will be revealed at the right time. Self talking, oops..

  8. Did anyone get all chocked up when you read the hugging scene between XL and ShiQi?
    I think I hold my breath while reading it haha…the scene was so naturally beautiful!
    There is absolutely no way XL doesn’t like ShiQi just as much as he likes XL.
    I’m all for ShiQi, but I feel like the more I read… the more my ship is wavering by Xuan.
    Argggghh…..

    • The moment Shiqi said ‘I’m going to think it’s you, i’m willing to carry you’ i was sold lol maybe because Xiangliu has started by being violent to XL so much and i hate it when the male lead treats the female lead badly, in any form, be it verbally or physically. But because everyone knows they’re the OTP so they root for them. Here we don’t know yet so yep I’m just gonna say no to violence. On other hand, I’m secretly looking forwards to Shiqi & XL scenes which are very little atm 🙁 and it’d been the same pattern, Shiqi taking care of XL when the latter is hurt, all while being forever passive. I’m afraid if it isn’t a sign that they just can’t be, because of missed opportunities and whatnot.

  9. I can’t believe how much this story affects me when I read it. That is the power of Tong Hua’s lyrical writing. Subconsciously I feel XL’s pain and sadness so inherently that after reading this chapter, my heart continues to feel heavy even though I know it’s just a story. Wow, even with my eyes wide open, she still got me emotionally. I truly regret not being able to read this book in its native language. I can’t imagine what I’m missing out on because of things lost in translation.

  10. Thank you for introducing me to this beautiful story. I’ve finally finished the book and the ending is so heart wrenching and made me cry so hard.
    My ship sailed but towards the ending I pretty much jumped over to a sinking ship, and my heart sank with it. It’s past 2 am here and I still can’t sleep and keep on replaying the scenes in my head, can’t wait for the drama to come out!

  11. Thank you for working so hard to translate for us readers. I marathoned the book after you posted the 2nd chapter (staying up until 4AM for several days in a row was definitely a bad idea) and it was so heartbreaking. You were right, it is the journey that makes the destination. Even through all the tragedies that life threw at them, our characters are happy.

    I go through tissues like crazy when there are references to Once Promised. I couldn’t finish Once Promised because the body count was so high and I couldn’t bear to watch the characters I love die. But the few references I do understand made me feel better. Even though it has been thousands of years, Shao Hao still enjoyed those years with Qing Yang. Although, it’s not necessary to read Once Promised to understand Lost You Forever, it makes everything sweeter. Similar to how it’s possible to read Yun Zhong Ge without reading Da Mo Yao, but the references are so welcome and heartwarming.

    I love Tong Hua’s characters, they develop and grow so much. The Yellow Emperor of Once Promised and the Yellow Emperor of Lost You Forever are so different, but deep down he is still the same, he just has a new perspective. The Xuan of Qing Shui town and the Zhuan Xu of the end are different because of their experiences, but they both deeply care for Xiao Yao.

    She is also excellent at drawing parallels to her other characters. Shi Qi, Meng Jiu, and Liu Fu Ling are part of the same archetype, the loyal, patient and warm-hearted beloved, but they are so distinct from one another.

    It’s always funny to get other people’s point of view of our main characters. Jing Ye thinks that Jing and Xiao Liu might have a gay romance, and is scandalized. Xuan is just weirded out that he may have to share sensations with a hedonist (who else would be having intimate relations while injured?)

    Although I would like to ask, what are society’s view on incest? Also, when did Shao Hao love Ah Heng?

    • There is no incest when its marriage among first cousins back then. Even in Western society first cousin marriage was fine until the modern era. Most royal lineages intermarried through cousins to keep the bloodlines intact and forge tighter political alliances. Xuan and Xiao Yao are fine, the question isn’t whether they are allowed to love in a romantic way (they are) but whether they do feel that way about each other.

      Shao Hao and Ah Heng? Shao Hao fell in love with Ah Heng much too late. I would guess it was when Qi Yo was injured for those two hundred years and healing in the Great North that it happened. It was definitely after they got married, but before Ah Heng had Xiao Yao. By the time Xiao Yao was born, Shao Hao already realized his mistake and that he made the wrong choice.

      他想起了他们成婚后,第一次开诚布公,定下盟约时,也是一个月色皎洁的夜晚,那一夜,他也是一夜无眠。

      He remembered their wedding night and the official announcement and then when they made their pact. It was also a moonlit night, and he was also sleepless the entire night.

        如果时光能倒流,再给他一次选择的机会,他的选择会是什么?

      If time would be reversed and she gave him the choice again, what would he choose?

        “是王子妃,还是你的妻子?”

      “Shall I be the Prince’s consort? Or your wife?”

        “妻子就是一生一世的唯一。”

      “Your wife means the one and only in your entire life.”

        阿珩清脆娇俏的声音似乎仍响在耳畔,可是他已经不能再回答一遍。

      “Ah Heng’s clear and sweet voice reverberated in his ear, but he could no longer answer again.”

      Shao Hao’s feelings for Ah Heng may be real, but I was always most touched by the bromance between Shao Hao and Qing Yang. In fact, I would say Qing Yang was the star of volume 1 of Once Promised. I almost quit the novel after what happened to him midway through. I love my Crown Prince Qing Yang! *sniffles*

      • Qing Yang and Shao Hao’s bromance was very epic and touching. In this large world, they met each other without any obligations and rules. They were friends first and allies after. Qing Yang’s death was heartbreaking. I couldn’t really forgive Yellow Emperor for doing that, it is logical for an emperor to kill any who can threaten him, but Qing Yang was his favorite and most capable son. From what I do remember, Qing Yang changed his mind and Yellow Emperor acted to soon. Xiao Yao was right, an Emperor is like the sun, from far away you can grow strong and safe, but too close and you burn.

        Tong Hua likes emphasizing that even if you are the Emperor and can seemingly control all, there are choices that are beyond his power. Sometimes, he has to use the people he can, even if it ruins his relationship with them. The Yellow Emperor of LYF definitely eased my distaste of him in OP.

        Tong Hua always make me wonder about how these characters would have been in an ordinary world, where they aren’t enemies across a battlefield. Xiao Yao and Zhuan Xu could have grown up happily on Mt. Xuan Yuan being doted upon by A’Heng, Chi You, Chang Yi, Chang Pu, Qing Yang, and Lei Zhu, instead of the palace fighting. But it is chaos that breeds great heroes, and the world always need heroes. I am grateful that even if the characters can’t have happy, untroubled experiences, they at least have wonderful childhoods.

      • Also, thank you for the explanation.

        Sometimes, I feel sad that Xiao Liu is so lonely. She is happy in Qing Shui town, living day to day with her human family, but to the gods, a human lifetime is but a blink of an eye. If she stays longer, she would have to watch all her friends die and find new companionship. I am almost glad that she will be forced to leave, because staying there would break her heart.

      • One of the reasons I love Zhuan Xu so so much and understand where he’s coming from is because he embodies both Qing Yang and Chang Yi. He is Chang Yi and Chang Pu’s son, and he looks like his father Chang Yi, but even the Yellow Emperor can see that Zhuan Xu is really the spitting image of Zhuan Xu’s uncle Qing Yang. Ah Heng would understand Zhuan Xu as well, probably more than even Xiao Yao. I loved all the siblings in Once Promised. The romance burned hotter there but the blood ties were devastating.

      • The Xuan Yuan family is scary in how loyal they are to each other. Lei Zhu definitely raised her children well. Yellow Emperor was a good father up until he got his throne. After that, he has his good days, bad days, and really bad days. But for them, family trumps everything. They would and did do everything they could for family.

        I remember that one scene in Once Promised when one of Yellow Emperor’s other son was fighting with Chang Yi (or maybe Qing Yang) and it flashed back to their happy childhood. It was awful to see how power and ambition has changed these people. But Qing Yang, Chang Yi, and A’Heng’s devotion to each other cannot be doubted.

        Zhuan Xu is Chang Yi’s son, but he is more like Qing Yang. He can’t follow his parents’ philosophy on love, because he has to be an Emperor. An Emperor must put his people first, and he does. (The jiang shan mei ren choice gets to me every single time.) Perhaps, it is a good thing, everything, even love, in excess is not good. After all, Chang Pu abandoned him to follow Chang Yi in death.

    • Now that I’ve finished Lost You Forever and knows pretty much how Once Promised ended, will it be less painful to read? I’m tempted because I’m super curious about Chi You and his back story, but not sure if I can handle more heart breaks after Lost You Forever.

  12. Thank you for another chapter. Have been refreshing your site like an addict.
    So Xiao Liu seems to like it when bitten, and Xiang not just sucks the blood but also kisses XL.
    And why doesn’t XL reveal to Xuan he/she’s the one he is looking for?
    More questions….and the wait and anticipation for next chapter starts already…

    • I think Xuan is telling Xiao Liu to refrain from sexual activities while injured, because after the pain, there was “the shivering feeling of bliss, as if someone was sucking, and licking, and lightly kissing.” Which from his perspective sounds like someone was giving Xiao Liu a hickey.

  13. LOL if they’re filming these scenes they have to dress the female lead up to be a man but it wouldn’t be accurate cause xiao liu’s disguise should be perfect and it would be obvious to the viewers that XL is female. however, it would be hilarious for them to hire a man to play this part and have xiang liu suck on his neck so its true to the story haha

    • LOL! At first I thought they would just get the main actress to dress up as the guy Xiao Liu for the beginning of the story. Then… I realise the fact is, Xiao Liu doesn’t even look like Xiao Yao, so I guess they will have to cast someone else as the real Xiao Yao later onz…

      • LOL I thought of the same thing! Imagine all the sweet and sexy moments played by two actors, I suppose they could go for a more effeminate looking actor, it’d be hilarious if they get a tough looking guy to play Xiao Liu.

      • Yuvee, I can’t reply to your post, so I replied to mine instead. Actually in my mind, Xiao Liu is kinda a rough looking guy. But oh well, Xiang Liu is effeminate enough… kekeke.

  14. THANK YOU!!!

    Quick question: Xiao Liu picked up a fox tail and realized Xuan’s identity, but was that just a random fox tail? I thought it was Xuan’s when he fell into the forest, but he still has his on him…

  15. It would even be possible a man with all these qualities? I read and reread several times, I’m really loving it. Thank you for the chapter. *-*

  16. I think I’ve read enough to board a ship now. Given these choices (lead men):

    1) XL finding unconditional love

    2) XL finding love without reason; another weirdo to bond with in a way that others can’t understand

    3) XL finding fated love – like those kdramas where kids form bonds that stick for life

    I totally choose TWO (2) all the way!! I love how she and Xiang Liu just click despite their actions. They give each other no reason to like each other but they just make each other feel better ya?

    • I like passionate, fiery, full of sexual tension romance like many but for once I’d love to see a happy peaceful one. I think it’s no less beautiful. (doesn’t help with the way Tong Hua writes Shiqi, practically my ideal type, silent, protective and unwavering attention towards the girl. sadly also the typical second male lead)
      The fated love from childhood is overrated in dramas tbh. I used to like it when i was young, but now i avoid it if i can. lol

      • Oh but xuan us different… There’s something refreshing about him guys! You’ll see. And I love all three equally. Gah

  17. Anyone have an audio link so I can listen to the chapters? because my chinese definitely is not good enough to read this and im desperate since i love this novel so much. this is the first chinese book I’ve ever attempted to read because it is just that great.

  18. Koala, you keep posting those mystical beautiful images to accompany your translation post. They’re so pretty I cannot imagine any perfect human being to portray them in real-life dramas! I dunno… after some cracking of brains, I can only allow the Korean Noh Min Woo to be a Xiang Liu… but even that seems to be something off. I dunno enough young China actors to put my imagination across.

    Btw, I am nearing half of the 2nd book, and already spoiled myself wit the ending. The dynamics sure took a huge turn in book 2. I know I cannot spoil things here. Wish there is a thread or someplace to discuss the whole 3 books in detail!!! >.<

  19. now i get to know Xuan better after read this chapter and now i’m getting confused to choose the man. first, i like Xiang Liu, he may be weird and vilent but i love him. but after i read this chapter i think i’m falling in love with Xuan too. I can’t imagine his feeling when he knows XL is Xiao Yao.
    Thank you Koala, you give me a chance to read such a beatiful novel.

  20. XL went missing for 300 years, 30-40 of those urs she was captured by the fox ( I thinking its a fox) and given she is at this town for another 20-30 yrs… That still left over 200 year unaccounted for. I doubt being captured was the only part of her totorous past… I hope we find

  21. Even this sounds like a broken tape, once again I want to said thank you koala for translating this lovely wonderful book.

    I loooove Xiao Liu as male character and hope he won’t change after he turn into his real self.
    When Xiao Liu tell Xan Tian Er, he want to teaching her to be doctor, I’m choked together with Xan Tian Er.
    He really give her not only second chance but entire new wonderful life with job and family.
    I love how Tong Hua describing Xan Tian Er’s life story. Sound simple, without grand stroke but warm and hopeful.

    Aaaaah! I’m become greedy. After get one, I’m immediately want another chapter.

  22. Seriously Koala, I would like to get ahead of myself, and ask for your opinion. Why do you think the book comes with the poster but the ending is such? Doesn’t it mean that ‘xxx’ is the main lead, and that resonates with the title? Recall that the moon theme and sea are all over the place too… 🙁

    • Xiao Yao loves all three men, and all three men love her. Period. Don’t get too wound up on who is the male lead, or who is in the poster, etc. This novel is more than that.

      But if you must know, Tong Hua is the person to ask who the male lead is. She has said publicly that the male lead is Zhuan Xu. He has the most page time of the male leads and his story is parallel with Xiao Yao’s.

      Once again, the male lead may nor may not be the one she ends up with, and may or may not be the one she loves the most. She may end up with the one she doesn’t love the most. Right? Or she may end up with the perfect one for her. Yes?

      I have my own analysis of which guy she loves the most, and which guy loves her the most. I’ll share all that at the end.

      • I agree. The male lead is Zhuan Xuan and from reading the story so far (6 chapters) and references from “Once Promised”, Xuan lost Xao Yao 300 years ago and will lose her to someone else at the end, hence it’s the title of the book, “Lost you forever”. I might be wrong since I only read 6 chapters thus far.

      • Agree. I believe that Xiao Yao will be happy 幸福 ,no matter who she ends up because all three men loves her so deeply in their own ways. There are such fierce shipping wars out there in the chinese forum and understandably so. Who can resist all these awesome males that Tong Hua has so immaculately created. Though I have to praise her writings this time. Subtle with hints that makes it all the more interesting. Like its hilarious how Xuan can actually feel the erotic sensation of xiang lu sucking xiao liu’s blood, and thats probably the real sensation she felt but yet tried to dismiss it.

  23. I’m absolutely loving Xiao Liu’s journey.

    In chapter 3, Koala said that Shi Qi sees Xiang Liu’s bites as kisses and that is very telling. I wanted to know if they really look like hickeys meaning Xiang Liu WAS kissing Xiao Liu from the start or its only Shi Qi who sees them like that because he is jealous of Xiang Liu?

    I also wanted to know how people’s views were in these pre historic times about gay relationships. Was it acceptable or was it a taboo and unacceptable?

    This book is driving me nuts. I cannot wait for more.

  24. I know it’s way tooo early to think about casting, but as soon as I read the part about Xiang Liu attacking Xuan with 5-claws, I automatically thought of Yuan Hong in The Condor Heroes as Yang Kang.

    Thanks SO MUCH for sharing this beautiful story with us, Koala. I can’t wait for the next chapter.

    • It is way way too late to make a reply now…BUT in case you come back here… after the first chapter, I was like wishing whoever wants to make a drama out of this story should have a male cast for Xiao Liu…but which actor can raise up to this role? He should be rough but must be relatively slender; look timid but cheeky,look lazy but intelligent,not good looking but lovable and most importantly got to act so intimately with another male. So looking forward to the drama though I know it’s never anywhere near to the book.

  25. After reading Chang xiang si, i have this thought and feeling of envy for Xiao Yao, Xuan and Jing. Its like they can take it slow, everything in their world seems to be work out in decades and a matter of years are a short time for them. Yet for us human, we are so constantly caught up in the rat race of making things happen for us. Constantly impatient, constantly rushing through life rather then savoring it. I cant help but wonder if we really have the luxury or curse of living a life of thousand years old, what will it be like? At the same time, it also really draws my attention to how fast a human hours and time passes by. The story did make me appreciate how much life is about right now. That loving and cherishing your love ones is all that matters.

  26. I am behind others by 4 years… goodness! I love fantasies..I think it helps to spice up our boring lives…so I hate tragedies. Tong Hua is able to out my loves and my hates together, that’s why I can never have enough of her work.

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