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Lost You Forever Chapter 24: Love and Hate are Inextricably Tied Together — 57 Comments

  1. Thanks for another awesome chapter Koala! Honestly I have always liked Jing but recently I find myself torn between Jing and Xiang Liu. Well whoever Xiao Yao ends up with totally deserves her.

  2. I can’t believe Xiang Liu started that commission while she was in the oyster! So many precious things involved, does she ever find out?

  3. Thank you for the new chapter ms. koala!!
    It’s really hard to pick which guy to ship Xiao Yao with as each has their strengths and weaknesses. but ultimately, I believe that Jing is the most suited for her since he’s the only one who’ s willing and able to put down everything for Xiao Yao. I’m not saying that the other two male leads are not willing/able to leave everything for Xiao Yao, it’s just that Jing is the only one who can fulfill her dream of living quietly and peacefully together. Yet despite this, i love each male lead because they each showed their love for Xiao Yao, even if it’s in their own special way. The reason why this story is such a great book is because Tong Hua creates very in depth characters and presents them in such a way that readers can relate to. So I am very thankful to ms. Koala for sharing a wonderful book to me and other people who can’t read Chinese, thank-you ms. Koala!!

  4. Actually, I wasn’t sure the bow was from Xiang Liu even after I’d finished the series. I wanted it to be Zhuan Xu or something. I had to ask around to confirm. The act was the sweetest and it just pained my heart even more afterwards.

  5. Thanks for the chapter!

    I always feel that deep down Xiao Yao must have known that Xiang Liu commissioned the bow for her. It’s like the Xiang Liu didn’t want her to know what he told her while she is “asleep” so she never mentions it.

  6. Jing is staying awake at night washing, pacing, and changing clothes…Yi Yeng did something to him didn’t she…oh no

    Xiang Liu…that is an excellent gift…you decided on it after she was attacked so she could defend herself. His love is truly sweet but his path is set and Xiao Yao will not walk it when she stands with Zhuan Xu

    As her Dad said I would rather they destroy the Feng Fang Clan so she could end up with Jing rather than repeat the tragedy her Mom endured…but Xiao Yao isn’t her Mom and honestly wouldn’t let herself walk that path with Xiang Liu…

    Considering your words Koala, and that there is a third book left, I’m guessing Jing and Xiao Yao are going to face insurmountable obstacles for now *sigh*

  7. Xiang Liu is so deep and has great restraint in letting Xiao Yao know about it. After Xiao Yao was attacked to death, he planned on making the special bow just for her to protect herself from enemies from afar. So thoughtful and tough like Xi Vu’s characters. He loves her unconditionally. I think Xiao Yao can easily fall for him, but Xiang Liu is the one that kept that from happening. He loves her, but keeps himself distance. His actions is so obvious though.

    • At this point both of them already know that they like each other. How can they not when the chemistry between them is so obvious? But they both know that they cannot go down that road. So they both love each other in their own special restraint way.
      I always remember what xiao yao told Xiang Lu. He is like a dream to her, but he is not fit to come into her dream.
      That is just xiao yao implied confession to him. Xiang Lu is pretty sure that xiao yao like him too, or at least think of him romantically. He is just respecting her wish. Both of them are logical and grounded enough not to let themselves fall into the pit of destruction.

      • Sigh sigh sigh. So heart wrenching. Thank you for sharing these thots. I agree with your analysis.

  8. Jing is staying awake at night washing, pacing, and changing clothes…Yi Yeng did something to him didn’t she…oh no

    Xiang Liu…that is an excellent gift…you decided on it after she was attacked so she could defend herself. His love is truly sweet but his path is set and Xiao Yao will not walk it when she stands with Zhuan Xu

    As her Dad said I would rather they destroy the Feng Fang Clan so she could end up with Jing rather than repeat the tragedy her Mom endured…but Xiao Yao isn’t her Mom and honestly wouldn’t let herself walk that path with Xiang Liu…

    Considering your words Koala, and that there is a third book, Jing and Xiao Yao will have to face insurmountable obstacles that will delay them again

  9. I love Xiang Liu. The guy shows his love for Xiao Yao through his actions, but also restraining her from loving him back by keeping his distance. He is so much like Xi Vu who is so strong and passionate, but easily misunderstood by others. The man of war. I think Xiao Yao would easily fall for him, if Xiang Liu let her. She said in the past that she was afraid to fall for him.

  10. I hope Xiao Yao discovers how much XL loves her some day. I think she knows she loves XL and would choose him if circumstances were different. Poor XY is too jaded to choose the brief but glorious soul encompassing love but if we were given the choice, how many if us would choose that over a safe, sweet, friendly kind of love?

  11. How is it possible that Xiang Liu is not even physically in this chapter and he is able to tug at my heart? Despite this, I feel like this chapter is about Zhuan Xu. If anything, this chapter shows how much of an anchor Zhuan Xu is in Xiao Yao’s world. It is very clear that Zhuan Xu is home to Xiao Yao. It is clear by the way Zhuan Xu and Xiao Yao treats her coming in going.

    Moving forward. I cannot but fear that Xiao Yao’s words to Ah Nian in this chapter will not come to haunt her in the future. The world definitely does not fall apart because you lost one man. It definitely does become a lot gloomier.

  12. Aww… Xiang Liu is so sweet! He prepared everything and paved the way for XY to get that bow. Yup! Definitely commissioned for her.

    I definitely feel for the Grand Emperor. He worries so much for his daughters. LOL at wanting to destroy the Fang Feng clan to get XY Jing! That’s what I call daddy power! 🙂 and he is powerful.

    Aww.. Are we going to see some sisterly moments between Ah Bian and Xiao Yao moving forward? I hope so! I really want XY to have a sister or a girlfriend that she can love and dote on. She’s surrounded by way too many guys. Heh.

    Uh oh. Don’t tell me FF Yi Yang did something to Jing making him change clothes and bathe frequently…it almost sounds like… Please, don’t tell me she’s going to be pregnant.

    The ending with Zhuan Xu getting angry at XY’s words hurt my heart. You’re the exception ZX! Except..she didn’t pick you, but picked Jing. :'(

  13. tong hua was probably burnt out by her own ending in Once promised to let xiao yao end the same way as her mom…..lucky for one of the guys….

      • @Maira huh… I wouldn’t want the characters to be in another Once Promised. That was devastating! Notice the pattern of Tong Hua’s series novels, when one is a happy ending, the other will be a sad one.

  14. Totally fell in love w XL alluva again with his thoughtfulness demonstrated by his gift…

    is it me who just doesnt have much sympathy for Jing even if it turned out he was forced?

    • I too dont have much sympathy for Jing if it turned out he was “forced”. Thats y I just cant seem to ship him with Xiao Yao. I mean if he was just more decisive, he could have taken a number of ( perhaps cruel to FFY)steps to force FFY’s family to end the engagement way before now. Instead….

      • If he was cruel amd forced it like how Zhuan Xu would Xiao Yao has said she wouldn’t love him (which must have stabbed Zhuan Xu)

  15. i am jumpin frm one ship to another …… oooo whoever she ends up with i totally happy with it …… how many chapters are left? n thanks alot 🙂

  16. My baby Xiang Liu might not be here in this chapter but I can still smell his smexiness through the chapter.

    Too late. He forcefully took my heart. Now I can’t take it back.

    • He has such a force doesn’t he whether or not he appears in the chapter. Haha. Just a mere mention of his name and I get excited! I wish there was a whole book dedicated to him. He’s such an interesting character, I want to learn every little thing about him. 🙂

      • YAAASSS! A book please!! I prefer it to be a photobook. I will surely sleep with it every night 😀

  17. Thanks for the chapter. I am perplexed on why Xiao Yao did not guess the bow was a gift from Xiang Liu. Everything about the bow pointed to Xiang Liu even down to the requirements of needing his blood in taming the bow.

  18. My my there goes Xiang Liu again. Why does he do such things and never let her know? He’s such a fool! A stupid fool I want to shake him! Haha. However, I’m loving that he is always looking out for Xiao Yao and finding ways or doing things for her to allow her to stand up and protect herself. I know she knows he fed her his blood but I wonder if she realizes what it’s doing to her like she can see Jing and Yi Yang from a far clearly and the bow needing the demon blood. Hmm~
    Idk if Xiao Yao is as oblivious to Xiang Liu and Zhuan Xu’s feelings towards her or she just chooses not to acknowledge them. It must be harder on Zhuan Xu though since he has to witness her affection for Jing and pretend like everything is alright. But then maybe because Xiang Liu has the bug he probably feels every bit of affection or pain she feels when thinking of Jing too and as a result feel hurt too?

  19. Mz. Koala thank you soooo much if it wasn’t for you posts am afraid my computer, phone and tablet would be none existent!!

  20. While I disliked how Xiang Liu treated Xiao Liu in the early stages of their interactions, I’ve come to respect him for his restraint and loving consideration to protect Xiao Yao.

    As for Xiao Yao, she has been warned by Zhuan Xu and the Grand Emperor not to see or have anything to do with Xiang Liu. She knows that she will always be on Zhuan Xu’s side and a passionate affair with Xiang Liu will only end tragically.

  21. Xiao Yao loves Xiang Liu. For someone who keeps a picture of another person in secret, I’ll say she loves him a lot. Just couldn’t openly express it though.

  22. I’ve totally shipped over to xiang lu. And I am half afraid of the possibility that he’s not it. I agree that Xiao Yao must have some affections for him otherwise why keep the image, plus the elaborate poisons she makes for him. Koala thank you so much for your amazing work. I’ll be a basket case until your next post. 🙂

  23. Thanks for translating! I’ve finally started reading these books and though I was at first scared to get lost in all those names and familial relations, it is surprisingly manageable if you read everything in a matter of days. 🙂 Onto the characters…

    I don’t like Xiang Liu, mainly because I hate how Xiao Yao has to always tread carefully around him all the time lest he turns violent and bites or bleeds her dry, but like tanya I respect him a little bit for spending over 30 years of his life healing her and commissioning a bow for her, though I don’t get why he didn’t give it to her in the end.
    In the same way I can’t really feel any sympathy for Zhuan Xu, a guy who is willing to do anything for his political goals; he knows exactly what kind of guy Xiao Yao wants, she’s told him often enough, and yet he acts exactly the opposite of what she wants in a guy to further his ambitions and then acts jealous and pouty when she turns to a guy who tries to be the man she wants. Real mature.
    The only one I really like is Jing, because he doesn’t play games – with her heart, her life or her political influence – he’s just trying to balance his duty to his family with his love for her and he never hides that from her. I really hope he gets the girl in the end. I read some comments here that they think he’s boring, but I disagree with that. Xiao Yao is a willful and crazy girl, she creates chaos wherever she goes and Jing is the calming constant in her life that helps her keep her feet on the ground and the head out of the clouds. I find their interactions interesting to read because of the person Xiao Yao turns into when she’s with him. Only with him does she act like an almost normal girl in love, who gets jealous, who gets cranky when he doesn’t write, who gets insecure about her place in his heart and who wants to believe his promises. Sometimes it feels like only with him she can finally let go of her tight grip on her emotions and try to reach for some happiness in her life. I love that he can give that to her, and while I agree that their love is hardly the explosive and sizzling kind, I think it’s a slow-burning one which may last longer for it than any other kind especially in her case where her heart is so securely locked away from any possible hurt. She needs someone who patiently and constantly and unwaveringly woos her to gain her trust as much as her heart. And Jing is the only one who does that.

    The thing I love the most about these books though is the world they paint. It sounds really fantastical and intriguing and it’s so strange how time plays such a small role in the lives of the characters.

    Thank you so much for giving us the opportunity to read these books and I can’t wait for the next chapter!

    • Great points to bring up! I love XL as well but like you I don’t like the aspect where he can turn so cruel that Xiao Yao has to almost fear him (although I… hmm how should I put it… respect that it’s part of his character?). Also agree with your comments about Jing – it’s easy to label him as boring, but boring’s not always bad? This is precisely what I love about Lost You Forever, it makes you consider all these different questions, different aspects of the male leads! And none of them are exactly ‘perfect’!

      • I agree with you about violence being a part of Xiang Liu. I don’t know anything about Chinese mythology, so maybe violence is a part of being a demon, but I thought from the glimpses we get of his character that being a warlord and his long and lonely existence have kind of warped his mind. At least I think that. And that’s why he connects so well with Xiao Yao, because her past experiences also turned her very morbid and weird. They know what it’s like to be world weary, to be lonely and to be cautious about other people. I think that’s the main draw between them.

        I would feel a lot less angry about his treatment of Xiao Yao if she had all of her powers and could fight back but chooses not to. But like this it is a very unbalanced and thus unhealthy relationship which I don’t like. I wish the author would give us more glimpses into his thoughts because I can’t quite get a grip on his character.

        And you’re right, none of the three male leads are perfect, but then again, neither is Xiao Yao. 😉 Makes us like them more, doesn’t it? 🙂

    • Agree with everything you said.That’s exactly my point.Boring isn’t necessarily bad.Jing may not have the fire in his heart like XL but his heart is warm enough to melt XY and keep her comforted during difficult time.I always feel that if XY chooses either ZX or XL, her life will get too complicated.Jing is only one with whom she can have a simple but peaceful life.

      • I agree. I fear that if Xiao Yao chose either ZX or Xiang Liu she would eventually end up getting hurt in some way because these two men have dangerous and very big ambitions. I don’t wish for her to be hurt anymore in any kind of way. She should get the beautiful but simple life she wishes for.

    • Jing is my favorite ship too but I think you have been quite bias against the other two leads. What Jing have over them is he has less baggage than them. The other two are ambitious, but if they was not given these baggage, you can’t say they wont be like Jing.

      Zhuan Xu is ambitious, but have you think of why he is so power-hungry? Half of the reason why he wanted power in the first place is to protect Xiao Yao. Of course he had a choice, and he had made his choice. But you can’t blame the guy for being heart broken. He lost the girl of his dream because he want to protect her. He chose her life over his own love for her.

      Xiang Lu’s baggage is the Sheng Nong army and general Gao Gao. To them he own his loyalty. His position isn’t exactly “desirable” per say. But if he abandon his responsibility to them – it just show that he is selfish and unloyal. Why would xiao Yao want a man like that?

      Jing’s baggage is his position as the clan leader. If he give that up, he is giving up wealth and power. But out of the three, his is the easiest to give up, since he think Hou can be just as good a clan leader as he can. And if he give up his position, Jing just look even more kind and unselfish. But u can see from this chapter, that when Jing is faced between his familial ties, and Xiao Yao, he also waver.

      In the end, each guy all come with their baggage. Jing just have the least, and he is the one xiao Yao gave the most leniency to. With Zhuan Xu, she is loyal as a sister, but romantically he been put on the back burner. With Xiang Lu, she given him the boundary so he can’t cross over. Only with jing did she give time, patience and understanding.

    • Aah I feel like you reached into my mind when writing this comment. You make great points and I really agree! I hate Jing being cast off as being dull or someone Xiao Yao is settling for just because he’s the most.. how to say.. convenient? That’s why I love the little moments where he causes her to blush or when she said she likes him being the big bad wolf; their quiet understanding and patience is lovely, but there’s also more.

      And thank you Koala for making my day once again!!

      • Yes, exactly. Reading many of the comments throughout the translations of these two books, there seems to be an underlying consensus that if all three male leads were to fight for Xiao Yao in the same way, she’d “naturally” never choose Jing. I disagree most emphatically with that.

        To be honest, I think he’s the only one she’d ever choose, no matter the setting or circumstances, because I haven’t seen her show any kind of romantic feelings for the other two. She treats ZX like a brother and apart from the mirror I haven’t seen any evidence that she likes Xiang Liu either.

        I’m completely baffled that so many readers here seem to look down on Jing and write him off as her settling on someone who just fits the bill. Xiao Yao isn’t someone who plays with feelings or deceives herself, she’s too careful with her emotions for that (especially with an engaged man): so all the blushes, the jealousy, the fear of hoping too much from Jing – that’s all real, her feelings are real, and it is not her mind settling or anything. Plus none of those feelings have ever been shown to one of the other guys.

        I don’t know about future chapters, maybe she will develop feelings for one or both other guys, but at this point in the story, I just don’t see it.

  24. Thank you for another lovely chapter translated, Koala! I’ve been waiting anxiously for this update. Maybe the longer wait between chapters will urge me to pursue the originals again.

    I love the bow story. Only XY would be so dense not to realise who commissioned the bow, those materials are mostly from the depths of the sea! Plus, to require XL’s blood to recognise its owner..

    I felt that XY was so sad when the Grand Emperor told her in no uncertain terms to break off all relations with XL. How could she when he was so engraved in her heart? She was still making poisons in the Gao Xing palace too.

    Even Jing realised that XL was in XY’s life whether she admitted it or not.

    Anyone knows what the chapter title means?

    So looking forward to the next one…

  25. As usual, thank you for this chapter! I really love enjoying the little intro you write to each chapters 🙂 It makes the reading experience even better… love reading your insights and the way you word stuff is lovely to read.

  26. Thank you Ms. Koala! Been looking forward to new chapters!

    I find myself re-reading the earlier chapters of the novel. I miss the care free, duck neck eating Wen Xiao Liu and the adoring Ye Shi Qi. Things were much more simpler back then. I’m scared to read the next few chapters because I have a feeling things might turn sour for them. 🙁

  27. Xiang Liu….you’re the perfect best boy friend forever. While Jing is the best hubby ever…..guys/men girls dies to have in their lifetime *sigh*

  28. Thank you Ms Ockoala, I just finished reading all 24 chapters in two sitting, started yesterday morning and just finished now! This story is truly amazing, you are sooo amazing for taking time to translate it, thank you, thank you.

    I read each chapter and everyones comments at the end of each chapter are all so interesting.

    My personal thoughts are that all 3 leading men need Xiao Yao, she actually does not need them really, she can exist as long as she has someone to care, like when she established the clinic, she just need to talk to others and is content.

    Zhuan Xu need her support and allegiance to conquer the kingdoms using her status as the princess.
    Xiang Liu needs her to heal him and provide him with poison, because she has her dads Qi Yo special blood flowing within her.
    Jing needs her to feel alive and be a man again.

    Zhuan Xu will never be her lover because he chooses never to declare it openly to her, he has silently loved her, is jealous but can never truly come clean about his love for her, and in the end when he will go ahead and fight Goa Xing kingdom so he can be the ultimatte ruler, he will be causing Xiao Yao more pain. Ah Nian will hate Xiao Yao even more when she discovers that Zhuan Xu can never go beyond being a Gege to her, he doesn’t love her in that way, she is just a little sister to him, whereas Xiao Yao although she is his little cousin, he has sworn to love and protect her all his life and in his heart, the guilt he must of felt when he realised that he had hurt her, by torturing her hands and then by breaking her legs, I don’t think he can ever forgive himself for that, and so will always hide behind the facade that he will protect her with brotherly love and will bow to her choice of who she chooses to love.

    As for Jing, their love started because she was so caring of him, nursing his wounds and healing his soul, because she spent so much time with him in those 6 years and when she noticed his maleness while he washed himself (he has the advantage here, because she was hands on with touching his body seeing him naked!)he become loyal to her and because he knows her needs of wanting a person she can depend on forever (remember when he disappeared when Xuan showed up, and she was very lofty to him after that incident, she felt betrayed not trusting him and distancing herself from him,) he learnt that to truly win her heart he has to be there for her always tell her that he will choose her always but ultimately his bloodties is binding him, He has the advantage of the other two in that he illicit a promise from Xiao Yao, and because she is loyal and wants to believe that Jing truly will be there for her as Sher Qi, so she will not allow her heart to wonder (just like she only allows Fang Feng Bei to suck her wrist, because to allow to suck her neck is too much intimacy).

    Xiang Lui as the demon is truly amazing, his story is full of pain, he loves Xiao Yao, but knows he can not be her lover as everyone is out to kill him and she will never be at peace being at his side unless he keeps her away from society and secretly be with her like under the sea, and as Fang Feng Bei he is both amazing and fun he knows how to cure her boredom, he can push her to honed her skills in both archery and poison making, he took time out to teach her how to defend herself, without wanting anything in exchange for the teaching, just spending time in her company was more that enough for him, while the other two seem to think that they can protect her by being by her side. Xiang Liu truly loves her and knew that if he was to take in the voodoo bug, it will always connect him with her, and it will always alert him whenever she is in danger, hurt and when she is feeling down and in need of Fang feng Bei cheering up. He loves her enough to keep her safe and alive, but knows it will hurt her if Jings dies, so chose to let her go. The amazing gift of the bow, that is more precious than Jings willingness of dying with her.

    I think Xiang Liu would give up his life for her too, and maybe in the end the bow he bestowed on her, my kill him!!!! I hope bloody not because that would be too sad.

    I think the Grand Emperor knows she is not his daughter,but loves her mother and feels sorry for her marriage to him, and that’s why he will always treat Xiao Yao as his precious daughter and try to protect her,he tried to avoid her wearing the oringinal ceremonial dress that would give her away as Qi Yo daughter (her eyes) never force her into a political marriage, he knows that both Jing and Xiang Liu loves her, but also knows that Jing would be the less risky one, even though Xiang liu saved her live, he knows that she is not fully aware that she is in love with Xiang Liu and he is already embedded in her heart, so to warn her off Xiang Liu now, not encouraging that love to grow.

    There is something a bit odd about Xiang liu when he stops himself declaring at the area, I think she is his soul mate, he has met her before in her past life, she saved him them by her encouragement to live, when he was a slave (I’m probably confusing everyone at this point).

    As for Yi Yang, what a shallow, back stabbing, conniving bitch she is, she will never be a good wife for the Tu Clan.
    I would love it if Xiao Yao ends up with Bei as she wished for him to be in that form than Xiang Liu, even though she does not realize that she loves both forms of him. Although for me personally I think him in the form of Xiang Liu is more sexy!!

    This book is epic, my only wish is that I could read Chinese. Needed to get 24 chapters thoughts off my chest, whew!

  29. Thank you Captain K! If only the author would share XL thought process with us! How can our XY not know he commissioned the bow for her. Oh boy she so lack in the love department. Hope new chapters bring us more of XL.

  30. Thanks for translation of the novel. I have been watching the tv drama and knew I was missing parts of the story and found your translation. It is very well done and appreciate the time and effort it took. I also enjoy your synopsis of each chapter. This chapter in particular regarding Xiang Lui being better off without meeting her but fate has its own design.

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